America's irreplaceable ally

[caesar44]

The Jewish lobby in the US is second only to the gun lobby. No other country on Earth can manipulate the US as well as Israel. Even Americans cannot manipulate America as well as Israel can.

One day, I swear...

"I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United Sates and Israel."

waow "the jew control the world" all over again ...............
oh america , the big bad israel is cotroling you
america be ware israel is going to eat you
tommorow you should accuse israel to blast your WTC
loby shmoby suddenly bush is zionist ah ?

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

you do realise the Jews are using MTV to destroy the Western World

[Steppe Merc]

caesar44, Beirut's a Canadian.

While I don't think there is any big conspiracy for Isreal to control the world, I do not think we ought to support a country that has commited so much state sanctioned murder and destruction. I'm not saying we should cut off all communication or anything, just stop selling them weapons and stuff.

Oh, and move them from our "friend" list to "neutral" list. That'll teach em.

[Papewaio]

"...with countries such as Singapore, India, Australia, Japan and Thailand, which will all play key roles in containing China in the coming cold war in the Pacific."

Well 3 of those countries are members of the British Commonwealth.

Singapore, India and Australia.

Nor has it been Israel propping up those countries and getting their economies more technologically advanced. Pakistan certainly didn't get a hand up from Israel and it has been exporting nuclear technology.

Singapore is its own business and technological powerhouse and that is definitly a fusion of all the cultures that make up Singapore and a strange cross of benign dictatorship / democracy that it is.

India is a massively poor nation yet it gleefully spends billions on nuclear weapons. Its high tech industry is massive and this has more to do with outsourcing of banks and IT companies then influx of weapons technology.

Australias arms industry peaked at the boomerang. I don't think its modernisation is too far behind the rest of the World barring travelling to work on Kangaroo back.

I think the 'facts' in this article ignore the larger picture. The friendship that the US has with these other countries is just like that it has with Israel, based on mutual benefit and trust. These are obviously enhanced with Commonwealth countries.

[PanzerJaeger]

Hmmm, I could have been mistaken. Seems he might have said "We control America" as opposed to "We the Jewish people control America."

Could you give the time and place where he said that and to whom he said it?

[PanzerJaeger]

I agree that I may be mistaken for the quote I assigned to Sharon and I'll take my lumps for it. If I am wrong than I am wrong. What else can I say?

Heh, posted at the same time as me..

[Don Corleone]

Oh, I don't disagree Beirut. The reason I dropped out of the whole debate was because I really disagreed with Nerouin's tactic. Hell, I was waiting for him to claim the Wall Street Journal was a pro-Palestinian biased source.

All I'm saying is that was a pretty explosive quote, and without proper documentation, you might want to save it. You've got better weapons in your arsenal.

Example: I cannot believe I'm the only Bush supporter who was shocked and disgusted by the shoddy treatment the First Lady received. And never an apology! It was clear to me that Sharon orchestrated the whole thing at the Wailing Wall to pander to his lunatic fringe, and it was unforgivable. What we do with Americans caught distributing state secrets, especially ones they have been specifically ordered not to share with the desired recipient, is our business. For Sharon to pull that crap, and then shake his head and say "What are you going to do..." Sorry, I haven't calmed down yet...

[xemitg]

If memory serves, the Israelis are the ones who manufacture the uzi. We need those so we will always be friends with our Jewish neighbors.

[Tribesman]

Yes, there were tons of quotes in the Jerusalem Post claiming Sharon was complicit with the slaughter in those camps up in Lebanon,
Don , the original inquiry found that he was complicit through negligence , incompetance, inaction and failure in duty . But not complicit in the actual slaughter . The person who was assassinated claimed to have evidence that he was complicit in the actual massacre , but as he was killed before he testified and the evidence he claimed was in safe hands just in case such an event occured has never surfaced .
Though of course unless he did have real evidence to back up his claims I don't think his testimony would have stood up to much as he could hardly be described as a reliable witness .
It may be true , but it may be not , which is why I wrote "unproven" not "unfounded" .

[Don Corleone]

I said complicit, not directly resonsible. I agree, I don't envision Sharon allowing the Israeli troops to assist in the refugee troops back in 82, but I'm also convinced he knew exactly what was coming next when he allowed the Christian militia groups to occupy them.

You can't throw a rabid dog into a nursery, lock the door, and say "Well, how did I know it was going to bite somebody?"

[sharrukin]

caesar44, Beirut's a Canadian.

While I don't think there is any big conspiracy for Isreal to control the world, I do not think we ought to support a country that has commited so much state sanctioned murder and destruction. I'm not saying we should cut off all communication or anything, just stop selling them weapons and stuff.

Oh, and move them from our "friend" list to "neutral" list. That'll teach em.

I assume you would include every Arab country in the world as well? There is not one of them who hasn't done far worse than Isreal.

[Steppe Merc]

I assume you would include every Arab country in the world as well? There is not one of them who hasn't done far worse than Isreal.

Yes. Fair is fair.

[Proletariat]

I love this place when Don C, Redleg, Xiahou are back to battle with and against Goofball, Beirut, Gawain, EA, and the rest of you din and tumult wreakers.

[Beirut]

GUILTY!

It would seem I have offended more than one person with my choice of words and careless generalizations. I would like to apologize to those who feel slighted and I will try to chose my words more carefully in future posts.

I stand by the general intent of what I said - I fully believe that the American government acquiesces to Israeli demands far too easilly and with careless disregard for the consequences, but obviously I should have taken more care in saying it as to not paint my individual American friends as anything but the fine folks I know them to be.

Y'all may consider me spanked.