Can someone explain German Law to me?

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 06-20-2005, 01:47

Originally Posted by Tribesman

I wasn't saying that because I'm a nazi, being as I'm not a nazi, just an extreme right wing fascist who beleives that the government should do what is best for the people, even if it is not the will of the people. But, I do get called a nazi quite alot, so yeah, I was just really confused
yeah but no but what if but and then but I am not but I am but not really but really I am but that doesn't matter 'cos I heard that shelly is a slag anyway .
So whats it going to be Capo ? Do you agree with the government being completely unrepresentative of the people that it governs ?
Bloody hell , they are locking chauffeurs up in Guantanamo because they may have strange ideas , yet you are walking free

You see, whereas the people I want rid of are wrong, I am right.

You see, whereas the people that need to go are totally against the advancement of myself and my fellow Americans, I am 100% for it. Where the people I want gone are evil, I am not. Savvy?

**Don Corleone** · 06-20-2005, 01:47

Kaiser,

I've got a CRAZY idea

Why don't you go over, enjoy yourself, but leave pre-conceived notions at home and just absorb? If upon the duration of your stay, you realize that yes, in fact, you were right all along and could have taught the Germans a thing or two about their political history, and need for a benevolent fascist, save it for the very last night. And I STRONGLY urge you use a system where the benevolence is more clear than it was then under Bismarck or Hitler. Singapore is probably your best bet, but even there, you're exposing yourself to some pretty heavy counter-arguments.

Anyway, have a blast. Demon & you over there... .look out my Teutonic friends, we're about to fight our 3rd war in 100 years!

Just kidding.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 06-20-2005, 01:50

I'm stocking up on the explosive chickens for the final epic battle between me and demon as we speak

**GoreBag** · 06-20-2005, 02:06

Yeah, Germany does have some pretty steep laws against anything that could be tied to Nazism. I read an article a while ago about some German prince who performed the ol' straight arm salute when in an argument with some employee at an airport. He was arrested for it.

Also, Landser, skinhead and national socialist rock band, were arrested a few years ago, I think. They are from Germany, but because of the strict laws in place, they were forced to produce their music in Poland. How odd is that?

**Franconicus** · 06-20-2005, 07:28

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Napoleonic Prussian Commander, wrote Of War

Clausewitz is no problem I read parts of it.

This is forbitten:
Denying that the Holocaust happened
Sedition
Incitement to crime or violence
Symbols that were used by Fascism
Offending People

So, dear Kaiser, go to Germany without any concerns. Look what happened here and maybe you change your mind about fashism.

By the way, did you ever read "The SS State" by Eugen Kogon? You should!

**Productivity** · 06-20-2005, 09:05

Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Is it just me or do they seem to be silencing right wing extremism only, as in it's wrong to be a fascist, but it's ok to be a communist or left-wing radical anarchist?

At a guess I would put it down to the fact that fascism caused one of the most tragic and shameful events in Germany's history, whereas communism did not. Nothing wrong with them wanting to avoid it happening again.

**Franconicus** · 06-20-2005, 09:24

Originally Posted by dgb

At a guess I would put it down to the fact that fascism caused one of the most tragic and shameful events in Germany's history, whereas communism did not. Nothing wrong with them wanting to avoid it happening again.

Well, in fact in German history you find a more than enough communism. Do you want to discuss the difference between comm and fasc?

In Germany communistic parties are forbitten as well if they are against the constitution.

**Productivity** · 06-20-2005, 09:32

Originally Posted by Franconicus

Well, in fact in German history you find a more than enough communism. Do you want to discuss the difference between comm and fasc?

I may find more than enough, but will it have caused anywhere near the amount of tragedy as fascism has? I know very well teh difference between them, but I will admit german history is not my strong point, and if you can point out a time when a german communist did as much damage as Hitler, then I will stand corrected.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 06-20-2005, 15:39

Originally Posted by dgb

At a guess I would put it down to the fact that fascism caused one of the most tragic and shameful events in Germany's history, whereas communism did not. Nothing wrong with them wanting to avoid it happening again.

Then again Communism caused many of the saddest events in the Worlds history, to date claiming over 100 million lives. And National Socialism is not fascism.

**Franconicus** · 06-20-2005, 16:26

Originally Posted by dgb

I may find more than enough, but will it have caused anywhere near the amount of tragedy as fascism has? I know very well teh difference between them, but I will admit german history is not my strong point, and if you can point out a time when a german communist did as much damage as Hitler, then I will stand corrected.

Alright, here a short trip through German history.
You know that Marx and Engels were Germans, like many other Socialists. At the end of WW1 there were many rebellions because people were tired of war and hungry. In Munich they chased the king away and had a Communist Republic. And they killed some people there. Did not last long. So called Whites came and took the town. The first days they killed every Red they could get.
Between the wars communism was quiet strong. They collected up to 30% of the votes. Together with hte votes for the Nazis this blocked the German parliament. And there was a lot of fighting in the streets. When the Nazis took the power communists either were arrested, put into KZ and killed or went into resistance or left the country. Nazis made a lot of propaganda against communism.
After WW2 the Soviets established a communist country in their zone. It lasted 40 years and was a dictatorship.
Today neither communism nor Nazis have a real chance in Germany.

Originally Posted by kaiser

And National Socialism is not fascism.

Kaiser, forget your sophistry. Bad is bad! If you do not believe you can see it when you visit Germany. When you return, please tell us what you found here

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 06-20-2005, 19:20

Originally Posted by Franconicus

Alright, here a short trip through German history.
You know that Marx and Engels were Germans, like many other Socialists. At the end of WW1 there were many rebellions because people were tired of war and hungry. In Munich they chased the king away and had a Communist Republic. And they killed some people there. Did not last long. So called Whites came and took the town. The first days they killed every Red they could get.
Between the wars communism was quiet strong. They collected up to 30% of the votes. Together with hte votes for the Nazis this blocked the German parliament. And there was a lot of fighting in the streets. When the Nazis took the power communists either were arrested, put into KZ and killed or went into resistance or left the country. Nazis made a lot of propaganda against communism.
After WW2 the Soviets established a communist country in their zone. It lasted 40 years and was a dictatorship.
Today neither communism nor Nazis have a real chance in Germany.

Kaiser, forget your sophistry. Bad is bad! If you do not believe you can see it when you visit Germany. When you return, please tell us what you found here

Will do.