Bad news from CA about Battles

[Little Legioner]

The main attraction to the TW games has been ruined.
I like to play the 3d battle map manouver for position, lay an ambush etc.

Seems as though C.A. have followed so many other developers by breaking
the features that made their games great in the first place.

Quite true... Ironic part is CA knows what is false and rejects it what they did at their older games! They are hiding behind reasons such as "re-imagining" "this is a new game". They have a company they have an experienced team which has been concentrated only developing games. They have a unique community. As an example just look to the Europa Barbarorum project. but they say no!

We know that "this is a new". It is "New" thats true but something could be changed.

Many of the fans created "mtw-rtw" comparison threads. I saw plenty of them in TWcenter, TWorg also COM. Why? Just think about it. Why we need it to compare with MTW? What were the disturbing things motivates us?

They can change many things which will become the RTW better and closer to the classic TW point. I swear if they want they can. They can claim the success again which is created before.

I wrote to COM. forums "i will not buy the expansion if you..." and i showed them reasons as a responsibility.

(Logged as Julius Augustus)

"Will you buy the expansion?"
http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...art=81&stop=91

An answer came from a moderator...

BatanguenoM@
"Please stick to the original topic/question, guys. Any more deviations will require us to do janitorial work on the thread.
Thanks. "

What was false on my message?

[Mongoose]

It was false because you were saying bad things about the game.

[IceTorque]

They dismiss our "input" as a minority number of TW players.
But we are only a minority in terms of being vocal about our dissapointment
with the game.
I put to C.A. that the vast majority of new and old players would enjoy
the game more and would be more inclined to buy future TW games if.

They listened to their fans and not just produce what they think we want.
just look at this new game.
http://www.mindlinkstudio.com/engine.htm

I know it's still in development but after reading about some of it's features
which have been requested in TW games for years.
e.g. Advance order, fake rout, huge battlemaps.

Why do C.A. refuse to listen to it's fans ?

[BDC]

Having played vanilla lan games and then Chivalry Total War lan games, I can safely say this engine rocks, and if CA can pull their finger out for just a second they could seriously improve their game in about 20 minutes of fiddling with options.

I suspect other things prevent them making it 'better'. They have to make it still work for everyone who bought the original, they have to make sure the ai at least can try and win, etc.

[Lord Adherbal]

don't forget the vast majority of people who bought RTW never visits forums, maybe doesnt even have internet. That kind of people probably loves RTW and has a hard time beating the AI. Just like the gaming press is praising RTW to heaven.
And to those people "80 complete new units !" sounds a lot more attractive then "rebalanced gameplay and lowered battle pace !". The latter would probably scare them, if anything.


Even tho BI has some very interesting new features, I still dont feel like supporting the product by making mods for it (ChivTW). I don't feel CA deserves to be supported by the modding community. They do much too few in return. I wonder what wouldn't happened if Vercingetorix had not made his CAS editor (and all the other tools). Would CA have helped us ? if not - then the RTW community would probably have been dead already. I mean, how many of you still play RTW Vanilla (unless you're one of those people who thinks mods contain viruses that destroy your computer) ?

Imagine how much CA could gain if they would support mods 100%, like for example valve does. They could even sell special packages with mods (provided the mod teams agree), just like Valve with Counterstrike etc. They could promote mods on their own (incredibly chaotic) homepage, and catch new interest from the gaming press and community.

[tibilicus]

He is right. Most of my freinds who own RTW dont even know that any bugs exist. I have one freind who has to play as egypt against the A.I to win on hard. And it is also true. Most gamers will probably think ohhh 80 new units! Lets buy it for that. Only to get bored of it a week or two later. And on the note of mods. It really is a small percentage of RTW gamers who are really interested in Mods. When i told my freind the other day that i couldnt wait for a mod called EB for the game he replied;"What's a mod?". *sies*

CA's PR departement must be completely retarded...

[steve]

I just turn off my morale when i do battles so it cuts down on people routing and it works rather well. Then enemy will stil route every now and then, but my troops wont route unless i make them, which is how i like it.

[Orda Khan]

I don't feel CA deserves to be supported by the modding community.

....And I guess there would be little to Mod at all if CA hadn't released the game eh?

CA's PR departement must be completely retarded...

Figure of speech or not, the use of the word 'retarded' in this way I find extremely offensive and it's about time Forum Moderators did something about it. Swearing is nothing compared to this IMO

.......Orda

[Mongoose]

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