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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    this thread isn't about the save/load bug

    but if you want - you can discuss the reason for CA being harshly anal retentive about discussing it in an open manner with those who notice such problems
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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    well...I'd like that.

    I have to be honest, I've never seen a company in this industry act like CA has over the past few months.

    Why do they absolutely REFUSE to ackowledge and address it?

    this is trolling or trying to stir things up...I'm genuinely curious as to what the problem is...

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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrutalDictatorship
    well...I'd like that.

    I have to be honest, I've never seen a company in this industry act like CA has over the past few months.

    Why do they absolutely REFUSE to ackowledge and address it?

    this is trolling or trying to stir things up...I'm genuinely curious as to what the problem is...
    I, along with many others, are just as upset about the save/load issue and the treatment it got at .com and the statements by Shogun and some of the Mods. But all our head banging, jumping up and down, proving over and over again with good data the existance of the bug, etc., had no impact on CA's stance to not extend further support after the 1.2 patch.

    So what are we to do?... there really is no point holding our breath for a fix by CA anymore. Unfortunately the highly talented community was unable to find a fix (like many other in player1's bug fixer) for this issue. Recently Shogun made a few statements in the Official FAQ and at TWC that he will come out with a statement on the save/load issue. But its been more then a month since his first such statement, and more then 12 days since he last posted at TWC asking for another 10 days before he makes a statement.

    Now what else is one to do. I for one gave up on RTW simply because of the save/load issue because I do not have enough time in one sitting to complete 5 turns, specially latter in the campaign. I got sick of baby-sitting the AI, and bending over backwards to get a challenge out of the AI. I finally decided to shelf the game and perhaps return to it once the save/load issue gets fixed. Its been 2 months, and with every passing day, the chances of getting a fix are diminishing, if not gone already.
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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrutalDictatorship
    well...I'd like that.

    I have to be honest, I've never seen a company in this industry act like CA has over the past few months.

    Why do they absolutely REFUSE to ackowledge and address it?

    this is trolling or trying to stir things up...I'm genuinely curious as to what the problem is...
    They've learned from GWB...

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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    Anyone who can tell me what CYA means gets a 1.3 Patch to RTW free of charge.

    Now, sure, when we buy the products they have all those legal contracts we agree to, whereby LEGALLY they can have a "two patch policy."

    But deep in their their hearts, they know their patching sucked this time around, they just can't admit to it.

    Try this as an experiment. Go into a McDonald's and order a Bg Mac. Take one bite and say to them: this hamburger tastes bad. See what they do.

    and by the way, the profit margins on hamburgers do not exceed software.

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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    "two patch policy."
    For crying out loud, how many times will people make up the same false statements. They have a 1 patch policy! Patch 1.1 was nothing but a quick fix to make MP playable by more than 30 people.

    Shall we wait till someone says that CA abandons the Total War series for Total Warrior since it has been taken over by SEGA?

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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    The quotation marks I included are meant to advise you that it's "sarcasm" or that it's their exact words, but necessarily the reality.

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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by HarunTaiwan
    Anyone who can tell me what CYA means gets a 1.3 Patch to RTW free of charge.

    Now, sure, when we buy the products they have all those legal contracts we agree to, whereby LEGALLY they can have a "two patch policy."

    But deep in their their hearts, they know their patching sucked this time around, they just can't admit to it.

    Try this as an experiment. Go into a McDonald's and order a Bg Mac. Take one bite and say to them: this hamburger tastes bad. See what they do.

    and by the way, the profit margins on hamburgers do not exceed software.
    IMDHO

    Ah-ha and the developers are the owners of McDonalds or the Burger flippers... who decides policy the owners or the workers?

    You can complain to CA as much as you want, Activision own the publishing rights to RTW so bark up that tree for patches.

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    @ .ORG mods:
    I apologize as my last posting was a bit exaggerated. I was really suffering frustration at another site which really has done what I said, and let some of it intrude on that post. Please forgive. I remember speaking with you when things were at their darkest hour, and you all seemed pretty reasonable to me.
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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    Thanks Old Celt. We all go through those times like that and it is sometimes hard to separate that one thing from the rest of your existence. Take a deep breath and keep on truckin'.
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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    No one is bitching about the developers as employees.

    Oh, you are saying CA the COMPANY is equivalent of a menial worker?

    Just like, say, Stephen King is the "developer" and Random House is the publisher, so if the book sucks, I need to complain to Random House.

    and yeah, the quality of a product is also the worker's responsibility, too.

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    Default Re: How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

    If the binding of a book falls apart or a ten pages are missing do you complain to the publisher or authour?
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