How would CA being more open about their Development be a negative?

[Zakor]

well...I'd like that.

I have to be honest, I've never seen a company in this industry act like CA has over the past few months.

Why do they absolutely REFUSE to ackowledge and address it?

this is trolling or trying to stir things up...I'm genuinely curious as to what the problem is...

They've learned from GWB...

[HarunTaiwan]

Anyone who can tell me what CYA means gets a 1.3 Patch to RTW free of charge.

Now, sure, when we buy the products they have all those legal contracts we agree to, whereby LEGALLY they can have a "two patch policy."

But deep in their their hearts, they know their patching sucked this time around, they just can't admit to it.

Try this as an experiment. Go into a McDonald's and order a Bg Mac. Take one bite and say to them: this hamburger tastes bad. See what they do.

and by the way, the profit margins on hamburgers do not exceed software.

[Duke John]

"two patch policy."

For crying out loud, how many times will people make up the same false statements. They have a 1 patch policy! Patch 1.1 was nothing but a quick fix to make MP playable by more than 30 people.

Shall we wait till someone says that CA abandons the Total War series for Total Warrior since it has been taken over by SEGA?

[HarunTaiwan]

The quotation marks I included are meant to advise you that it's "sarcasm" or that it's their exact words, but necessarily the reality.

[Papewaio]

Anyone who can tell me what CYA means gets a 1.3 Patch to RTW free of charge.

Now, sure, when we buy the products they have all those legal contracts we agree to, whereby LEGALLY they can have a "two patch policy."

But deep in their their hearts, they know their patching sucked this time around, they just can't admit to it.

Try this as an experiment. Go into a McDonald's and order a Bg Mac. Take one bite and say to them: this hamburger tastes bad. See what they do.

and by the way, the profit margins on hamburgers do not exceed software.

IMDHO

Ah-ha and the developers are the owners of McDonalds or the Burger flippers... who decides policy the owners or the workers?

You can complain to CA as much as you want, Activision own the publishing rights to RTW so bark up that tree for patches.

IMDHO

[Old Celt]

@ .ORG mods:
I apologize as my last posting was a bit exaggerated. I was really suffering frustration at another site which really has done what I said, and let some of it intrude on that post. Please forgive. I remember speaking with you when things were at their darkest hour, and you all seemed pretty reasonable to me.

[Gregoshi]

Thanks Old Celt. We all go through those times like that and it is sometimes hard to separate that one thing from the rest of your existence. Take a deep breath and keep on truckin'.

[Puzz3D]

Thanks Old Celt. We all go through those times like that and it is sometimes hard to separate that one thing from the rest of your existence. Take a deep breath and keep on truckin'.

This is why I put the game aside for the time being. It's not worth the frustration, and continuous frustration is harmfull to you. I now play a different game which is a lot more enjoyable than RTW because it works better. We'll see what CA is able to do with BI, but it's going to take a lot to fix this game up to the point where it's worth playing as far as I'm concerned.

CA keeps their game development secret, and I doubt that will change. As a result I think they will alway miss the mark on the type of gameplay that players want. I believe it was Mike Simpson who said that CA makes the gameplay the way they like it, and they hope that the players like it as well.

[Mongoose]

Just out of curiosity...what game are you playing? MTW? Silent hunter 3?

[HarunTaiwan]

No one is bitching about the developers as employees.

Oh, you are saying CA the COMPANY is equivalent of a menial worker?

Just like, say, Stephen King is the "developer" and Random House is the publisher, so if the book sucks, I need to complain to Random House.

and yeah, the quality of a product is also the worker's responsibility, too.

[Papewaio]

If the binding of a book falls apart or a ten pages are missing do you complain to the publisher or authour?

[RomanCavalry]

I'd blame the publisher, but the reality of the situation is that the Author's rep is still tarnished.

I do think you could have used a better example than a book, but still...it serves it's purpose.

If I wear a suit to a powermeeting at work and the suit rips, my co-workers are not going to laugh at Armani, they're going to laugh at me.

[IceTorque]

I think a better analogy would be.

A Macca's emplyee (C.A.)being told by the manager (Activision)to cook the burger(RTW) for 30 seconds instead of the usual 60 seconds.

the 2% that complain do so to the employee.
80% don't buy macca's anymore.
and the rest don't notice the burger is half cooked.

Result employee loses job.
But plenty of new jobs at burger king.