Quote Originally Posted by ichi
Whatever you can get away with. If you can keep the media from digging at it, and keep the courts out of it, and the public lets it slide, then you got away wth it.

ichi
Right, the media has shown no interest at all in publicizing alleged abuses at the US prison camps like Gitmo.

I'd say that if the media keeps digging at it, the courts stay out of it, and the public "lets it slide", maybe its not as bad as some would say.