Canadian female sex killer to leave prison

[Beirut]

So it's a bloodlust thing. That doesn't sound much like justice to me.

I'm also baffled by the idea that rehabilitation is for the criminal's sake-it isn't. It is or society's sake, so that we don't have to waste money keeping them in prison or make killers of ourselves by executing them. I mean, surely to turn a stone-sold murderess into a functional member of society, as opposed to giving in to our baser instincts and slaying her, would be a truly noble goal?

Bloodlust? Maybe not. But certainly revenge for the sake of revenge.

To understand our motivations in this matter you would need to understand just how much the crimes perpetrated by her and her husband rocked the whole country. God knows things like this happen, unfortunately, all the time, but for some reason this one was the zenith of all evils to us. It was the straw that broke the camel's back and had thirty million Canadians either screaming with rage or simply crying in frustration.

I'm not sure why this case affected the country so deeply, but it did. I do not doubt for a moment that many millions of Canadians, normally fair people with an inate sense of law and order, of justice and fairplay, would be more than happy if someone ran the bitch over and then backed up and did it again.

I myself, casting aside all exagerations of toughguy talk, cannot guarantee that if I saw her I would not attack her with all my force.

[Steppe Merc]

BTW Justice is an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. She tortured and killed 3 young girls with her husband, she should be tortured and killed. It's that simple.

So if I break the law by smoking marijuana, do I get to smoke until I die (which would take a very very long time)? Sweet!

[Ice]

So if I break the law by smoking marijuana, do I get to smoke until I die (which would take a very very long time)? Sweet!

No they should just make u smoke until u can smoke no more :P

[GoreBag]

So if I break the law by smoking marijuana, do I get to smoke until I die (which would take a very very long time)? Sweet!

You know you'd have to smoke your own body weight in pot, right?

[sharrukin]

So that individuals such as her will never get the chance to be rehabilitated.

Why wouldn't you want her to be rehabilitated? I can understand arguing that she should be executed on the grounds you think she can't be rehabilitated, but I don't see why you would object to her being turned into a functioning member of society if at all possible.

Revenge and justice are posed as two seperate things which in my opinion is incorrect. If a man walks up to someone and puts a bullet in his brain and then gives himself up to the police. If you know absolutely that he will never do any such thing again in his life does he get to go home after a shower to wash off the blood?

If not then we are talking punishment/revenge, aren't we?

So it's a bloodlust thing. That doesn't sound much like justice to me.

Beirut said it well.
Yes it's a bloodlust thing AND it's justice. Like most things in life it manages to be at least two things at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive but rather are tied up in being the same thing and revenge can exist without justice, but justice cannot exist without the other.

I'm also baffled by the idea that rehabilitation is for the criminal's sake-it isn't. It is or society's sake, so that we don't have to waste money keeping them in prison or make killers of ourselves by executing them. I mean, surely to turn a stone-sold murderess into a functional member of society, as opposed to giving in to our baser instincts and slaying her, would be a truly noble goal?

I just cannot find the interest in saving someone who is so utterly despicable that she would be part of the rape and murder of her own sister as well as other young girls. People die all the time and many of them are far more worthy of my concern than this evil bitch.

There is nothing noble about helping her when others exist who are far more deserving.

3) And finally, the one that really, truly broke my heart. A teenage black male who lived in Hartford CT. He was semi-retarded, but by all accounts, had a heart of gold and had a true love of his fellow man. He lived in one of the worst projects in the city. He used to put a towel around his neck and claimed to be Batman and would help old people in and out of the building (as he was 6'6" and weighed over 350 lbs). Well, one day, some younger kids, who had no grudge against this guy, came by with a case of soda. They proceeded to pelt him with the soda cans, even after the guy, screaming and crying, begged for his life. He died there on the lobby floor. Now here's when I almost stopped believing in God, and I did stop believing in the inherent goodness of man. During the attack, at least 10 residents walked through the lobby, including several whom had been assisted by the boy. Nobody called the police.

[A.Saturnus]

Criminals are humans, not computers.

And that`s why humanism doesn`t apply here? It always amazing when people want to treat machines more humane than humans.

Revenge and justice are posed as two seperate things which in my opinion is incorrect. If a man walks up to someone and puts a bullet in his brain and then gives himself up to the police. If you know absolutely that he will never do any such thing again in his life does he get to go home after a shower to wash off the blood?

If not then we are talking punishment/revenge, aren't we?

Punishment serves four purposes: general deterrence, individual deterrence, order of law and detention. Revenge is not among its purposes. A murderer is punished not because it serves the victim (obviously) but because it serves society. The humanist view is that remaining humane while punishing serves us more than a harder punishment could.

I just cannot find the interest in saving someone who is so utterly despicable that she would be part of the rape and murder of her own sister as well as other young girls. People die all the time and many of them are far more worthy of my concern than this evil bitch.

It is not about her, it is about us. It is not that she deserves to live but that we deserve not to be dragged down by her, not to be lowered to her level and - literally, if you`re a Christian - not to stain our souls for her.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Great post, Sat.

[Proletariat]

I'm not sure why this case affected the country so deeply, but it did. I do not doubt for a moment that many millions of Canadians, normally fair people with an inate sense of law and order, of justice and fairplay, would be more than happy if someone ran the bitch over and then backed up and did it again.

I'm not defending this wicked woman, but this is not a good reason for exacting revenge. I can just picture throngs of Canadians with pitch forks and torches meteing out their own justice when their own government played by it's own rules that they have their own say in.

[Beirut]

I'm not defending this wicked woman, but this is not a good reason for exacting revenge. I can just picture throngs of Canadians with pitch forks and torches meteing out their own justice when their own government played by it's own rules that they have their own say in.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm only saying those feelings exists.

I know very well I would be wrong to hurt her, but, as I said, I cannot guarantee that I wouldn't if I saw her.