Legionary Eagle questions

**Tue** · 06-21-2005, 12:35

I started the civil war before the Marian Reforms and so I never got the First Cohort mentioned in Froggbeastegg's excellent guide from the Senate. I would imagine that neither the Scipii or the Brutii got them either. Is this correct?

Also, is there any difference between the First Cohort offered as a reward by the Senate and the Legionary First Cohort I'm able to train in Rome?

If there is, can the Legionary First Cohort lose the eagle? (If it can I plan on losing a LFC in battle and then capturing it with a good general to let him gain the "Eagle Taker" trait)

Thanks in advance.

**The Stranger** · 06-21-2005, 12:52

1. you cant get the eagle anymore, nor can the brutii and scipii
2. you cant train the first cohorts anywhere (exept if you mod the game)
3. i thought that you must loose the eagle but win the battle to get the eagle taker trait

**Conqueror** · 06-21-2005, 13:05

First Cohorts can be trained in the city of Rome after the Marian reforms have happened.

**The Stranger** · 06-21-2005, 14:11

Originally Posted by Conqueror

First Cohorts can be trained in the city of Rome after the Marian reforms have happened.

sorry forgot that in patch 1.2 they can be trained in rome (i made them trainable everywhere)

**Tue** · 06-21-2005, 14:15

Thank you all.

So presumably I can put the Legionary First Cohort into battle, have it massacred and then retrieve the eagle with my general, thus gaining him the "Eagle Taker" trait?

(A horrible exploit I know, but fun non the less)

**antisocialmunky** · 06-21-2005, 15:53

Why you want to waste such a rare and valuable unit like that is beyond me.

Though, after taking Rome... I guess it's justifiable.

**Productivity** · 06-21-2005, 13:08

From memory, you can train them in Rome, post Marius.

**Tue** · 06-21-2005, 13:22

Okay, now I'm confused:

Originally Posted by Emperor Umeu 1

2. you cant train the first cohorts anywhere (exept if you mod the game)

Originally Posted by dgb

From memory, you can train them in Rome, post Marius.

Which is it?
I can train Legionary First Cohorts in Rome after the reforms but according to Frogbeastegg's guide they are not the same as First Cohorts.

**Productivity** · 06-21-2005, 14:02

I think FrogBeastEgg has missed updating her guide post patch 1.2, which was when I think it became possible to produce them.

Either way, I think they are the same thing.