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    Default Re: Nature must not be worshipped: Judeo-Christian values, Part XVI

    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    I'm beginning to wonder.
    You might want to check into what a discussion forum is all about - its not a simple message board. The moderators and staff encourage debate. Therefor by itself the forum is designed to share ideas.


    Where did I deny that there different kinds of Satanism?
    By saying I had no knowledge of which I type.

    Actually, I'm the Modern Satanist going by the account you posted just below the post which this post is quoting. I'm well versed in the different forms of Satanism.
    If you are well versed in the different forms of Satanism - then you would not have challenged my defination initially - but informed all that there are varying forms of the term Satanism. To clarify that the initial definition provided was not complete. However you decided to challenge and say that I had absolute no knowledge. There is a major difference in the techinque there.

    THe definition I have used happens to come from not just Wikepedia but from several sights that deal with the subject matter. Care to quess how many websites deal with Satanism as a religion that acknowledges the devil?

    Oh, and there's no such thing as a defination.
    Trying to correct someone's spelling again I see. Very good - you lose points in a verbal debate for that one. But then if that is all you are focus on - then you might want to focus again on the definition of Satanism. Something you have yet to show that I am wrong on.

    I know it. Nothing you have brought to my attention is new or shocking. Granted, I did accuse you of not knowing as much on the subject as I do, and I'm still quite sure you don't, but that's beginning to drift from the subject at hand.
    LOL - other then a practicing Satanist - I probably am versed enough on the subject to understand it and discuss it. You assumed because I am a christian that I have not studied othe religions or cultures - your error not mine. When you want to discuss aspects of the Native American Culture which was part of the initial discussion - then you can pick several tribal groups that I have absolutely no knowledge of - but I do know several of the basic tenates of how Native America cultures percieved and practiced their religion. But as you state you drift from the subject with such accusations.

    So a Protestant must accept Catholic ideas? And Stalin WAS a fascist..
    Why yes, a protestant must understand and accept certain Catholic Ideas since by definition both are christian religions. The protestant religions are a branch off of the teachings of the Catholic Church and the New Testiment, which was initially written to support the spread of the new church founded in Rome. The Esipicol (SP) Church - a protestant religion cites several Catholic creeds in its religious dogma.

    And no Stalin was not only a fascist - he was also a member of the Communist Party.

    My problem with the Church of Satan is that it has become a funhouse mirror image of the organization its members despise so much, not that its official statement deviates from the conventional idea of LaVeyan Satanism.
    And that gives you the grounds to inform someone that they have no clue about Satanism because they are Christian - yep sound logic on your part.
    I don't go the Church of Satan - but I have read on it and studied it for a thesis in a philisophy class I once had.

    Well, yes and no. Modern Satanism, under whose mantle I would sit, is incomplete without a refutation of doctrine and dogma.

    Dogma is defined as - 1 a : something held as an established opinion; especially : a definite authoritative tenet b : a code of such tenets c : a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds
    2 : a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a church

    To claim there is no dogma sounds kind of funny since I can easily post the creed of the modern satanist.

    It is. It is just as much a contradiction as your above example - that I'm not on a message board to provide information; in order for anyone to understand what information you are attempting to provide, you must adhere to certain rules of language, pertaining, in this case, to orthography.

    LOL - and if you can not understand what is written - you ask. Once again why particpate in a message forum that discusses issues if you are not willing to help others understand and learn. Unless it is of course just to troll.

    If you want proper english and spelling with correct punctuation then your not wanting to discuss or inform others on your opinion - but to quibble on context - not discuss the content.
    Last edited by Redleg; 06-22-2005 at 19:24.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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