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    Default Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    I have serious difficulties against Ptolemaic Empire....it`s pretty late (26 BC) so they are very powerful....their armies are not that strong against my legionaires...but are MANY!! ...many stupid armies !!...once i slain one full army of theirs...2nd turn another full banner army is attacking me...and so on.Only me (Julii) and Ptolemaic Empire are on the map...While i was busy conquering the world, they become powerful...and now they are the last stronghold against me...making the all map RED !!
    Is somebody here who was in my situation ? please HELP..any advice i will consider
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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    Attack on multiple fronts and use a large number of stacks (armies) in your pushes. Don't let them concentrate their efforts, if you feel your forces are being slowed down, land another army at a different point in their territory to keep them on their toes. In other words keep their forces divided and eliminate them one by one.

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    i hope will work...i`m sick of bribing egyptians to not attack my abroad strategic armies =) cheers
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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by scorillo
    i hope will work...i`m sick of bribing egyptians to not attack my abroad strategic armies =) cheers
    If that doesn't work explain how it failed, I'm sure someone (if i don't have a clue) will then help out Good luck in your conquests

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    Definitely attack on more than one front. And also consider using spies and assassins to reduce the troop building capabilities of large cities you want to take. If they can't build any new units from the nearby cities, they'll need to bring in reinforcements from further away, which gives you time to march onwards, destroy any immediate forces and take the cities.

    To be honest though, perservance and patience will be important. I don't think I'd have the patience to try and wipe out the sole remaining enemy, not without auto-resolving most of the battles.
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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    wow you managed to get to the year 26 BC ? you really have been playing that game a long time

    my advice would be attacking from different directions , order a couple of army's to invade from the pontus direction , and let other armys land from the western side, ( from carthage / siwa ) also land a couple of army's were they least expect it., like in front of Alexandria.

    If you then continue to take their 3 most important citys ( thebes , alexandria en memphis ) you are well on your way in destroying those stinking egyptians !

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    Lightbulb Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    My advice is the Usual If you make alot of $ then just bribe the Non-General armies.

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by scorillo
    i hope will work...i`m sick of bribing egyptians to not attack my abroad strategic armies =) cheers

    For sure,

    I don't know why it is, but Egyptians are among the toughest in the system, especially desert axemen, and the hardest to bribe.

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    Desert axemen are not SUPPOSED to be that strong. It's just not realistic. Just mod them, man.

    They are not the hardest to bribe. They will corrupt themselves as easily as any other man when they see gold. You just need a lot of money.

    On the military side, if you are confident of beating full-stacks, then by all means ignore their armies and besiege their cities. Relief full-stacks will come to their aid, and the garrison will sally out to assist. Just ensure that you rout that army COMPLETELY and the city is yours, and there, they're that much weaker. As Magnum says it well: It's the cities that count, not the battles.


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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    I have serious difficulties against Ptolemaic Empire....it`s pretty late (26 BC) so they are very powerful....their armies are not that strong against my legionaires...but are MANY!! ...many stupid armies !!...once i slain one full army of theirs...2nd turn another full banner army is attacking me...and so on.Only me (Julii) and Ptolemaic Empire are on the map...While i was busy conquering the world, they become powerful...and now they are the last stronghold against me...making the all map RED !!
    Is somebody here who was in my situation ? please HELP..any advice i will consider
    Its always the same boring problem on this damn game, the enemy isnt particularly skilled or smart hasnt a decent quality army but because no battle is ever really decisive its practically impossible to destroy an empire with hundreds of thousands of men.

    No matter how many times you kill 2500 Ptolemys in battle theres another 220,000 to go and they replace the losses immediately anyway.

    Thats one of the biggest flaws in the game, as the romans on RTR ive slaughtered over 16,000 Ptolemys in 4 years and their military has declined about half a cm on the military graph.

    Therefore I estimate itd take about another 100 plus massive battles JUST to be able to dominate their empire. Battles on Medieval used to mean something, on RTW no matter how big the battle it seldom makes any difference whatsoever.

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    Did you head straight for the core cities? Kill all the cities and be satisfied by the sight of all their full stacks turning gray.

    If you use 1 unit armies on the strategic map as screens, you can avoid fighting many of the battles.

    Also, crank out many troops and provided you have far more money and resources, just autocalc them to death.

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    now other problems occured their diplomats began bribing my non-governators cities...and my armies within disappear !!...It`s hard to bring governors to Asia because most of them are in europe...dont know why the AI put them in europe only....I`ved sacked Alexandria and Memphis but are besieged every turn....Now 2 full banners armies both with generals are attacking Memphis...Does not accept bribe...These egyptians are crazy !!!...I`m attacked on every front with huge armies...don`t know how are so many !!...Now rebelions are agravatting my situation with their rebelions.....I`m bored of playing this campaign !!!!! ...next time when i want to conquer the world i should attack first the egyptians and then the rest...anyway it`s 4 BC and egyptians hold 16 settlemets...don`t think i will be able to destroy them until 14 AD...i will quit playing this campaign but i will save the game to be more safe.
    Anyway thanks 2 everybody for the help ....and maybe somebody will revenge me ...by conquering the world...btw...does someone finished the campaign by destroying all the factions...making the map their colour ??

    so u know i`m playing H/M Mundus Magnus mod

    and when i think about the realistic story of the egyptians....sorry if i`m wrong but...i know that egyptians were easly conquered, when cleopatra comited suicide,so Marc Antonius gets the land,they were no match for romans.....but this is RTW the GAME !
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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    as monk said attack all sides
    train well balanced armies with enough archers
    if youre a good defender lure them in attacking you
    if youre a good attacker, attack them on grounds where you have advantage.
    block their harbors and take their large cities as fast as possible this way youll destroy their economy and also their ability to train large and quality armies

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    Well when the fighting is tough for me, I start taking cities that does not have a large stack nearby sack it throw in a garrison.

    After weakening them then I start taking on there full stacks. Egypt has 1 huge advantage in this game, they can always win a war of attririon, that's why you need to avoid large stacks until you've taken enough cities to hurt there treasury.
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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    @scorillo, you have much patience. I only completely conquered the world once and that was with the Greek Cities in 248 BC.

    It loses its flavor eventually as it's more or less just a logistics nightmare in the endgame with organizing 10+ armies around and shipping governors/generals towards the front.

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    a short story about Roman Empire and their rulling emperors:

    Octavianus Augustus 27 BC - 14 AD - he reastablished the empire order

    Tiberius 14 AD - 37 AD - "lex majestates" he indurated the emperor`s authority

    Claudius 41 AD - 54 AD - he conquers Thrace and Britannia

    Nero 54 AD - 68 AD - he maked a terror regim in empire

    Vespasianus 69 AD - 79 AD - he reinforced the empire and hard-set the emperor`s authority

    Domitianus 81 AD - 96 AD - despotical reign,Battles with Dacia

    Nerva 96 AD - 98 AD - he assigned Traianus as the succsesor

    Traianus 98 AD - 117 AD - he conquers Armenia,Dacia
    ,in his reign the empire knewed the largest extension

    Hadrianus 117 AD - 138 AD - he quits conquering,but he reinforced the empire

    Marcus Aurelius 161 AD - 180 AD - Roman Empire is being attacked by barbarian nations

    Septimius Severus 192 AD - 211 AD - he sets the military monarchy

    Caracalla 211 AD - 217 AD - with the "Antonian constitution" he raised the citizens number

    Aurelianus 270 AD - 275 AD - he retreats the overrulling armies from Dacia

    Diocletianus 284 AD - 305 AD - reinstaured the despotic orientaly type monarchy

    Constantinus 306 AD - 337 AD - he recognised the christianity

    Theodosius 379 AD - 395 AD - he splits apart the Empire in 2

    I`M PROUD TO BE EUROPEAN...SUCH GREAT HISTORY IN THE OLDEST CONTINENT ON EARTH
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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    I avoid traveling down near the Dead Sea. I land right at Alexandria. Take it, burn it, raze everything, kill everyone. Repeat in Memphis. Take Thebes, it seems to revolt less. Retrain all troops. Let Alexandria and Memphis revolt. Retake them. Reraze them. Kill as if you were creeping death. Then work your way north.

    I can't keep Memphis and Alexandria even with garrisons of 1500. Kill, raze, lather, rinse, repeat.

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    Default Re: Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by scorillo
    I`M PROUD TO BE EUROPEAN...SUCH GREAT HISTORY IN THE OLDEST CONTINENT ON EARTH
    Um, are you a moron? No offense or anything mate, but think about this... all of the major continents are the "same age", aside of small exceptions such as Hawaii, but that is an island. (but then so is every land mass, since they are "all" surrounded by water)

    Europe is not the "oldest continent"... if your talking about the continent that has the oldest known civilization, then you should think about the Asia area, Middle East area, Egyptian area in North Africa, they were around long before the Romans, etc.
    Last edited by Siris; 06-22-2005 at 19:36.

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