I dont think somebody particular won in the end. Meanning you cannot just consider all barbarian nations as an entity. You cannot do this even for Greeks. They fighted as nation (or sort of) only 3 times in history (trojan war persian wars and Alexanders march in Asia) and even in these cases there are many debatable points. The only people that maybe correspond to nation-race-state model are the romans.Originally Posted by eadingas
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