What is a Jew

[ICantSpellDawg]

You are wrong.

First of all, height is different from faith and favorite color. You can quantify height. Faith and favorite color can't be quantified and you just have to legally swear your position, regardless if it's true or not.

If Indonesia decides that Indonesian citizens are 7 ft tall, then everyone not 7 ft tall would not be Indonesian. This was applied in US during the slavery. Everyone with black skin was a slave, with white skin you became a free citizen. So your position here fails.

If Indonesia decides that every Indonesian have green as their favorite color, and they agree, they are Indonesian citizens. If not they will be deported, exterminated or prosecuted. This has been done by civilizations during history and happens in countries like China and North Korea at present time. Once again, your position fails.

With your own logic, faith can not be quantified and is therefore not relevant in "real" life. It's purely symobolic.

So, your position fails, Pindar. If you want to argue the meaning of religion, faith, religious as words in the English language, but the actual topic of our discussions doesn't change. You are wrong.

I, personally, disagree.
In my own opinion after following the arguement, I believe that you are the one who is wrong. However, I do believe that you may have trumped Pindar's point about Indonesians being 7 feet tall. At the same time, I am not sure that the point that you were refuting was damaging to Pindar's superior arguement at all.