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    Default Re: What is a Jew

    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    A fundamentalist is a person that only want to see the letters of the written and is inable to see the meaning in a perspective.
    This is different than your earlier reference to fundamentalism from wikipedia. So, a fundamentalist is any who take a literal position? Is that your view?


    Several modern scientific reasearch has been made on these texts, for example there are proof that Jesus actually has lived, based on archelogical findings.
    There is no archeological "proof" Jesus lived.

    Pindar refute this on the basis that the holy texts have a metaphysical appeal, they claim there is a deity.

    Further down in the discussion, Pindar argue that religion is nothing without it's faith. People belonging to a religion do believe in a metaphysical appeal that can be found in the "holy texts" and teachings of the religion.

    So bottom line, Pindar has taken a fundamentalistic view on religion and refuse to see beyond the faith and metaphysical appeal, since he claim that it is the fundamental pillar of the religions.
    It's interesting to see how you characterize my view. Actually, my stance is:

    Creationism is not science, because it does not meet the standards of a science. Two examples are: it makes a metaphysical appeal, it lacks a verification schema.

    Religious devotion can only be meaningful or properly understood through belief. If someone doesn't actually believe in religious precept they are not religious. For example a Muslim is someone who believes in the Five Pillars of Islam.

    On fundamentalism: your old definition (the wikipedia def.) didn't apply as it was centered on sectarian movements. You've introduced another definition so I'll wait to see if I understand your view before I comment.
    Last edited by Pindar; 06-30-2005 at 19:38.

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