Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
Let's work with this model. If under this situation the government tells person A their favorite color is Green and they actually claim Orange is their favorite: what is their favorite color? Who is right?
The government is right and they have the Patriot act to back it up.

Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
If person B is told green is their favorite color and they are indifferent, is green really their favorite color?
Since they have a green T-shirt, they still belong to the team.

Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
If person C is told green is their favorite color and they claim: "yes, green is my favorite color" is the final determination based on the government dicta or the person's statement?
They are patriotic, which is something good in societies based on religion.

Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
It would seem that would depend on the person. Those who commit their lives to a cause may disagree. Those who die for a cause would seem to also disagree.
The people who disagree dies or goes to Gitmo, so they don't really count, do they......