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    Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
    This is flawed. It is flawed because it is oxymoronic. Membership suggests some standard whereby the designation can be made. If one can be a member one can also not be a member. It therefore cuts against the 'fixed' notion of religion. The standard is therefore dependant on the individual and if the individual is the primary factor then the motivations (beliefs) of the individual are relevant.
    Use your logic on American citizenship.....

    There is nothing oxy with members of religions. It's all about adminsitration in a large social structure....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    Use your logic on American citizenship.....

    There is nothing oxy with members of religions. It's all about adminsitration in a large social structure....
    Alas, a light shineth in the dark and the darkness comprehendeth it not.

    The above was refuted long ago. You'll have to do better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
    Alas, a light shineth in the dark and the darkness comprehendeth it not.

    The above was refuted long ago. You'll have to do better than that.
    I think that my thread have proved my point. I am a muslim and I don't believe in Allah. You are a Christian and you don't believe in the old testament.

    By the way, the faith in the North Korean leader would actually make the communism there a religion. Really interesting actually......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    I think that my thread have proved my point. I am a muslim and I don't believe in Allah. You are a Christian and you don't believe in the old testament.

    By the way, the faith in the North Korean leader would actually make the communism there a religion. Really interesting actually......
    Alas, no. You are not a Muslim as you do not accept the Five Pillars of Islam. I am a Christian and I do accept the Old Testament. Communism is not a religion.

    You are confused on oh so many things, but I like you anyway. The perplexed have a certain charm.

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    guh

    needless words
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
    Alas, no. You are not a Muslim as you do not accept the Five Pillars of Islam. I am a Christian and I do accept the Old Testament. Communism is not a religion.

    You are confused on oh so many things, but I like you anyway. The perplexed have a certain charm.
    Oke, please tell me how the earth was created and how humans was put upon it......

    On my confusion, legends through history was never believed in nor accepted during they lives, I just accept that sacrifice for the better good.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    Oke, please tell me how the earth was created and how humans was put upon it......

    On my confusion, legends through history was never believed in nor accepted during they lives, I just accept that sacrifice for the better good.....
    dont you mean WERE put on it
    dont you mean WERE never believed
    dont you mean THEIR lives


    ????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
    dont you mean WERE put on it
    dont you mean WERE never believed
    dont you mean THEIR lives


    ????????
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    I sure do.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    Oke, please tell me how the earth was created and how humans was put upon it......

    On my confusion, legends through history was never believed in nor accepted during they lives, I just accept that sacrifice for the better good.....
    Neither of these answers will effect your non-Muslim status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pindar
    Neither of these answers will effect your non-Muslim status.
    I am a muslim and I have documentation to prove it.....

    I still want to hear how you, as a believer, consider the earth history.

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