Re: Labour to achieve Lords landmark
Sir Mark Thatcher never held a seat, since he was never a peer.
But doesn't he get the seat when Maggie goes to hell ?
Well, Mark Thatcher broke the law in another country, so that would make his situation a legal minefield,
But are not himself and Archer both the subjects (among others) of an inquiry and possible British trial in relation to the coup plot ?
Re: Labour to achieve Lords landmark
No, Baroness Thatcher only holds a life peerage, not an hereditary peerage, so thankfully, he won't be getting that cushti baronial title...Originally Posted by Tribesman
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Re: Labour to achieve Lords landmark
from a moderatly informed watcher of the british political system - the house of lords is absurd and so is the royal family
a bane on the existence of the UK - but those are just my 2 cents.
the royal family belongs in a british museum if it believes that it should be both tax exempt and recieve government payments
the house of lords could be replaced with an even remotely representative body
i would like to see this - but my desires for the british poli system have nothing to do with reality
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Re: Labour to achieve Lords landmark
The royal family is not tax exempt, HM the Queen pays taxes on private income, and the money from the Treasury only pays for things such as having foreign heads of states round for tea.
As for the House of Lords, It should certainly be more representative, and a body independant of politicking should appoint new peers, not big man Tony.
It was not theirs to reason why,
It was not theirs to make reply,
It was theirs but to do or die.
-The Charge of the Light Brigade - Alfred, Lord Tennyson
"Wherever this stone shall lie, the King of the Scots shall rule"
-Prophecy of the Stone of Destiny
"For God, For King and country, For loved ones home and Empire, For the sacred cause of justice, and The freedom of the world, They buried him among the kings because he, Had done good toward God and toward his house."
-Inscription on the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior
Re: Labour to achieve Lords landmark
weren't they tax exempt only a short time ago?
the Queen decided to call off the side-show because she realized that if she didn't, the entire performance would be cancelled
it is a slow and money swallowing descent that the monarchy is following
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Re: Labour to achieve Lords landmark
Yep, I agree totally Tuffstuff, the Royal Family is an affront to our democracy and should be removed post haste.
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Re: Labour to achieve Lords landmark
How is it actually an affront? Did it suddenly declare that the act of Habeas Corpus was repealed and that the country under a state of martial law? I suppose a supreme head of state with all powers would be better?
The way the Royal Family both pays money in and gets money out is a bit silly and time-wasting. It should just get payed less. What could be done is that it is given property or something and it gets it money from that. The money could be re-paid over a period of time and would be more economic in the long run.
For the house of Lords perhaps a council of wise and learned people should be elected. These people would then appoint all peers, whilst they would be barred from standing for Parliament and other political posts, nor would they be allowed to have any previous record of politics.
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