Mods lying/deleting threads for no reason

[Simetrical]

I've replied to your PM. The post where TosaInu banned you was here—apparently he stated his reasons in the thread, not in PM. Or maybe he PMd you too, I dunno.

-Simetrical

[HorseArcher2]

stating that totalwar.com uses "nazi tactics" and calling someone a "nazi" are two entirely separate things.

This is what some of you, especially mods, do on these forums...you take something that someone said, and you disagree with, then twist it around and distort it into meaning something that is, ironically, a "bannable offense".

Tell me how that is fair?

[HorseArcher2]

I have looked over the thread that you state got me banned....

it's exactly as I just stated in my previous post...i stated that totalwar.com uses "nazi tactics" to coverup any negative threads.

Unless you yourself work for CA I don't know why you would take offense to that statement...it's not as if it's untrue. We all know they pick and choose the posts that are allowed to be viewed in an attempt to paint the picture of a "happy community" when the community as a whole is anything but happy.


Again...i personally think that any mod who ignorantly just distorts the meaning of someone's text, because he has a fetish with CA and feels the need to defend them, should be banned also.

I will reiterate: Stating that the totalwar.com forums use "nazi tactics" is not in violation of the terms of service. What if I said "stalin tactics"? would that be a violation?

this is silly...

[HorseArcher2]

I also want to clarify something for symetical: NOBODY, as I've stated repeatedly in my first post, contacted me about this ban. Nobody. Not only that but when I contacted THEM asking why I was banned, they refused to respond. I say refused because I've sent at least 3 requests for the reason. No replies.

Another thing: These forums use a point warning system to decide who is banned and who isn't. Mods don't just make those decisions based on personal discretion. I think this is a fantastic system, and when followed, avoids exactly this situation.

Explain to me what the point of having that system in place is, if mods are allowed to bypass it, cheat it, alter it and just flat out not use it?

If I was warned for saying "retarted" and "nazi tactics" that would only make 4 points of warning...it takes 5 to be banned for ONE day. I was banned for 2 days, only cited regarding one warning, and somehow am shown to have 10 warning points.

Again, what's the point of a system if a mod can lie and just call the number 4, the number 10?

As you see, this thread has NOT been locked, moved, or responded to by a mod responsible for it's creation.

[Papewaio]

HorseArcher2-san,

Any kind of "flaming", slurs or insults adressed to an individual or a group is extremely inappropriate. Please respect etiquette at all times.

Some of the patrons at the Org work for CA. As such your posts violate the Orgs rules.

Warnings can be 0 to infinite, it depends on the history of the poster as much as the post.

Nor do moderators decide someone gets an instant ban. I requested that it be done, even when a patron flaunts the rules we will confer as a group.

Also the moderators are not on 24/7, we are patrons and volunteers. The onus is on the patron to be polite, Just like sport play the ball not the person. you should be moderating yourself and be a lot more polite to yourself and other patrons.

The site has 10 year olds to eighty year olds. This is not a pub or a sports locker room so it is not the right place for swearing.

I certainly haven't lied about why you have been banned. You can rant as much as you want at me, I don't mind if you want to call me any name under the sun. However attack another patron or group of patrons then expect to pay the consequences for your actions.

In short you can act how you want, banned or not banned there is a cost to your actions. Chill, be factual, backup your posts and be good to yourself by being polite particularly to the people who are upsetting you.

Regards,
Papewaio

[HorseArcher2]

HorseArcher2-san,


Some of the patrons at the Org work for CA. As such your posts violate the Orgs rules.

Warnings can be 0 to infinite, it depends on the history of the poster as much as the post.

Nor do moderators decide someone gets an instant ban. I requested that it be done, even when a patron flaunts the rules we will confer as a group.

Also the moderators are not on 24/7, we are patrons and volunteers. The onus is on the patron to be polite, Just like sport play the ball not the person. you should be moderating yourself and be a lot more polite to yourself and other patrons.

The site has 10 year olds to eighty year olds. This is not a pub or a sports locker room so it is not the right place for swearing.

I certainly haven't lied about why you have been banned. You can rant as much as you want at me, I don't mind if you want to call me any name under the sun. However attack another patron or group of patrons then expect to pay the consequences for your actions.

In short you can act how you want, banned or not banned there is a cost to your actions. Chill, be factual, backup your posts and be good to yourself by being polite particularly to the people who are upsetting you.

Regards,
Papewaio

This is propaganda...until you address the specific points I've laid out you're basically saying what I suspected was true: "yes, since some of us DO work for CA, we will not tolerate ANY slander regarding any facet of CA's practices"...

I think I'm beginning to understand...

do me a favor, spend more time fixing the loadgame/seige bug and less time worrying about 1 word out of 50 million on this forum.

[Papewaio]

This is propaganda...until you address the specific points I've laid out you're basically saying what I suspected was true: "yes, since some of us DO work for CA, we will not tolerate ANY slander regarding any facet of CA's practices"...

I think I'm beginning to understand...

do me a favor, spend more time fixing the loadgame/seige bug and less time worrying about 1 word out of 50 million on this forum.

HorseArcher2-san,

We do not work for CA.

When you signed up with the Org you accept the rules. The Org does not accept flaming at the Org. You called a group Nazis. You cannot call CA or any other group Nazis. Trolling is not acceptable here.

You are correct the Org will not accept slander on any group that is at the Org. The Org does accept thoughtful analysis, troubleshooting and documentation of problems.

Have a peachy day,
Papewaio

[HorseArcher2]

I simply cannot understand your stubborness on this issue...well, yeah actually I can lol...

i did not call anyone or any organization a nazi...

I said that CA "USES NAZI TACTICS ON THEIR FORUMS"

this is not the same thing as actually calling them nazi's...

[TosaInu]

I will reiterate: Stating that the totalwar.com forums use "nazi tactics" is not in violation of the terms of service. What if I said "stalin tactics"? would that be a violation?

Good enough, account terminated.

[RomanCavalry]

Good enough, account terminated.

that makes absolutely ZERO sense....

I'm glad this thread proved it's point, for the whole community to see.

ask a very reasonable question, expect an answer? nope, get an ignoramous to say "good enough, banned"

[InsaneApache]

Is this some sort of record for a ban/termination?

Some people are their own worst enemy.....

@HorseArcher2 this site is run by fans not CA/Activision/Sega and having a go at guys here about bugs in the game is silly....

and as it's been said when you join the forum you agree to be bound by the rules, if you dont like the rules, then dont join.



nb:at least Bartix was funny.....

[Revelation]

In the end mate, your going to lose the war. While I don't care much for alot of them(moderators), they are the ones who have their fingers on the Locked/ban/warning button and most are not afraid to use it.
On the whole, most do a decent job. But , catch em on a bad day and you will pay the price.
Call it pmt, call it childish and unfair, goddamn, call it whatever you like, but the fact remains.......
They are the ones in CONTROL! BEWARE!

[Monk]

that makes absolutely ZERO sense....

I could say the same about why you posted so many threads on nothing...

I'm glad this thread proved it's point, for the whole community to see.

The only thing this thread has proved is that you double back on what you say when it suites you. Yes you did call CA nazis, you called anyone who is connected with CA Nazis. Take some time to read the many threads you've made and you'll see that. link I say you said that because It's pretty obvious you're the same person just with a diff account.

ask a very reasonable question, expect an answer? nope, get an ignoramous to say "good enough, banned"

No, more like "Warnings ignored, flamming of any group is not tolerated, spamming is not tolerated."

Have a nice day.

[HarunTaiwan]

The mods have an obvious interest in being slightly pro-CA because they want CA postings here. If it's a nasty bash fest, they won't get the CA posts and that would suck, so I have to agree with their position, even if it seems a little unfair sometimes. Though they do tolerate enough that it's not too noticeable.

[Drisos]

that makes absolutely ZERO sense.....

I think it does, take a look at your posts in Watchtower.

You fully deserve your ban! The mods are quite tolerant, so you must have done your best to get it.

Rather very annoying how many idiotic threads you've posted in watchtower, all for the same subject, BTW.

P.S.: When your next account get's banned too, don't register a new one. Your presence is not appriciated.

[SpencerH]

Dont y'all have the ability to ban a particular IP address?

[The Stranger]

ooooooh stop it. youre the only one spoiling this forums. i think youre now the most hated ex-member on the .org

[Revelation]

what is the sound of two bricks clapping? Mush: ... Castration

OUCH! I can actually feel that. It begins as a dull throb in my groin, then I need to clear the mind and repeat over oand over....."think of nothing, think of nothing"
Not a nice reminder to the male species!

ooooooh shut up you crazy bastard. youre the only one spoiling this forums. i think youre now the most hated ex-member on the .org

Oooh, that comes dangerously close to defying one of the golden rules here at the org forums?
Can I hear/feel a warning coming on?

[sik1977]

Good enough, account terminated.

You deleted his account?? OUCH...

I guess emotions are flying high around here. Maybe both parties should calm down a little and try and reconcile their differences like grown-ups instead of calling each other bad things and terminating accounts. Using 'Nazi' references and terminating accounts is simply unpleasant on an otherwise great forum.

[Productivity]

It's obvious in your own world, you don't view it as fair.

Sadly for you, you are not in your own world. You are in a world controlled by TosaInu (The Guild) and he rules. There are no appeals to fairness here.

Personally I think TosaInu has got ir right. Calling someone a Nazi, or saying they use Nazi tactics are close enough and I think they both deserve harsh punishments.

EDIT: Stop trying to be a lawyer, all the tecnicalities in the world wont save you here, for two reasons. Firstly TosaInu has no obligation to listen to you, and secondly you are not very good at it. I'm not a lawyer, and I can see gross logical deficencies in your argument. I'd hate to think what some of the actual lawyers who come here would do to it.

[HorseArcher2]

It's obvious in your own world, you don't view it as fair.

Sadly for you, you are not in your own world. You are in a world controlled by TosaInu (The Guild) and he rules. There are no appeals to fairness here.

Personally I think TosaInu has got ir right. Calling someone a Nazi, or saying they use Nazi tactics are close enough and I think they both deserve harsh punishments.

EDIT: Stop trying to be a lawyer, all the tecnicalities in the world wont save you here, for two reasons. Firstly TosaInu has no obligation to listen to you, and secondly you are not very good at it. I'm not a lawyer, and I can see gross logical deficencies in your argument. I'd hate to think what some of the actual lawyers who come here would do to it.

One...you said lawyer, not me. I'm glad you admitted that you're not one though.

Two: my argument is very logical...yours isn't. Yours seems to be "ah, as long as it's not happening to me, I could care less about fairness."

Ok, then read my previous post...what's the point of the warning point system if it's not going to be followed, and when it's not...people like you state "ah I don't care".

[IrishMike]

Dude, don't take offense to this or anthing, this gonna be last post on the issue. But if you feel you have been scewed over so bad, and that its not fair, and you feel like you have done nothing wrong, then why come back to the guild if its that bad?

[HorseArcher2]

so if you're fired from your job because of your sexual preference the solution is to just "let it go"?

your point is invalid...

many of you refuse to acknowledge any of the valid points I've made...and I find that sad, as obviously this will continue to happen to other people.

What if I was a mod and just gave DGB a warning for having "homo..." written under his screen name? Then instead of giving him 2 points, which is what a language warning calls for, gave him 10 and supplied no reason?

You honestly think he'd just let it slide?

How would that be fairness?

[Productivity]

One...you said lawyer, not me. I'm glad you admitted that you're not one though.

Two: my argument is very logical...yours isn't. Yours seems to be "ah, as long as it's not happening to me, I could care less about fairness."

Ok, then read my previous post...what's the point of the warning point system if it's not going to be followed, and when it's not...people like you state "ah I don't care".

I have an exam in half an hour, don't have time to do a thorough analysis of your argument, but if you want, I'll do it some itme later.

[HorseArcher2]

I have an exam in half an hour, don't have time to do a thorough analysis of your argument, but if you want, I'll do it some itme later.

how convenient....