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    I have looked over the thread that you state got me banned....

    it's exactly as I just stated in my previous post...i stated that totalwar.com uses "nazi tactics" to coverup any negative threads.

    Unless you yourself work for CA I don't know why you would take offense to that statement...it's not as if it's untrue. We all know they pick and choose the posts that are allowed to be viewed in an attempt to paint the picture of a "happy community" when the community as a whole is anything but happy.


    Again...i personally think that any mod who ignorantly just distorts the meaning of someone's text, because he has a fetish with CA and feels the need to defend them, should be banned also.

    I will reiterate: Stating that the totalwar.com forums use "nazi tactics" is not in violation of the terms of service. What if I said "stalin tactics"? would that be a violation?

    this is silly...

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    I also want to clarify something for symetical: NOBODY, as I've stated repeatedly in my first post, contacted me about this ban. Nobody. Not only that but when I contacted THEM asking why I was banned, they refused to respond. I say refused because I've sent at least 3 requests for the reason. No replies.

    Another thing: These forums use a point warning system to decide who is banned and who isn't. Mods don't just make those decisions based on personal discretion. I think this is a fantastic system, and when followed, avoids exactly this situation.

    Explain to me what the point of having that system in place is, if mods are allowed to bypass it, cheat it, alter it and just flat out not use it?

    If I was warned for saying "retarted" and "nazi tactics" that would only make 4 points of warning...it takes 5 to be banned for ONE day. I was banned for 2 days, only cited regarding one warning, and somehow am shown to have 10 warning points.

    Again, what's the point of a system if a mod can lie and just call the number 4, the number 10?

    As you see, this thread has NOT been locked, moved, or responded to by a mod responsible for it's creation.

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    HorseArcher2-san,

    Any kind of "flaming", slurs or insults adressed to an individual or a group is extremely inappropriate. Please respect etiquette at all times.
    Some of the patrons at the Org work for CA. As such your posts violate the Orgs rules.

    Warnings can be 0 to infinite, it depends on the history of the poster as much as the post.

    Nor do moderators decide someone gets an instant ban. I requested that it be done, even when a patron flaunts the rules we will confer as a group.

    Also the moderators are not on 24/7, we are patrons and volunteers. The onus is on the patron to be polite, Just like sport play the ball not the person. you should be moderating yourself and be a lot more polite to yourself and other patrons.

    The site has 10 year olds to eighty year olds. This is not a pub or a sports locker room so it is not the right place for swearing.

    I certainly haven't lied about why you have been banned. You can rant as much as you want at me, I don't mind if you want to call me any name under the sun. However attack another patron or group of patrons then expect to pay the consequences for your actions.

    In short you can act how you want, banned or not banned there is a cost to your actions. Chill, be factual, backup your posts and be good to yourself by being polite particularly to the people who are upsetting you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    HorseArcher2-san,


    Some of the patrons at the Org work for CA. As such your posts violate the Orgs rules.

    Warnings can be 0 to infinite, it depends on the history of the poster as much as the post.

    Nor do moderators decide someone gets an instant ban. I requested that it be done, even when a patron flaunts the rules we will confer as a group.

    Also the moderators are not on 24/7, we are patrons and volunteers. The onus is on the patron to be polite, Just like sport play the ball not the person. you should be moderating yourself and be a lot more polite to yourself and other patrons.

    The site has 10 year olds to eighty year olds. This is not a pub or a sports locker room so it is not the right place for swearing.

    I certainly haven't lied about why you have been banned. You can rant as much as you want at me, I don't mind if you want to call me any name under the sun. However attack another patron or group of patrons then expect to pay the consequences for your actions.

    In short you can act how you want, banned or not banned there is a cost to your actions. Chill, be factual, backup your posts and be good to yourself by being polite particularly to the people who are upsetting you.

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    This is propaganda...until you address the specific points I've laid out you're basically saying what I suspected was true: "yes, since some of us DO work for CA, we will not tolerate ANY slander regarding any facet of CA's practices"...

    I think I'm beginning to understand...

    do me a favor, spend more time fixing the loadgame/seige bug and less time worrying about 1 word out of 50 million on this forum.

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    This is propaganda...until you address the specific points I've laid out you're basically saying what I suspected was true: "yes, since some of us DO work for CA, we will not tolerate ANY slander regarding any facet of CA's practices"...

    I think I'm beginning to understand...

    do me a favor, spend more time fixing the loadgame/seige bug and less time worrying about 1 word out of 50 million on this forum.
    HorseArcher2-san,

    We do not work for CA.

    When you signed up with the Org you accept the rules. The Org does not accept flaming at the Org. You called a group Nazis. You cannot call CA or any other group Nazis. Trolling is not acceptable here.

    You are correct the Org will not accept slander on any group that is at the Org. The Org does accept thoughtful analysis, troubleshooting and documentation of problems.

    Have a peachy day,
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    I simply cannot understand your stubborness on this issue...well, yeah actually I can lol...

    i did not call anyone or any organization a nazi...

    I said that CA "USES NAZI TACTICS ON THEIR FORUMS"

    this is not the same thing as actually calling them nazi's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseArcher2
    I will reiterate: Stating that the totalwar.com forums use "nazi tactics" is not in violation of the terms of service. What if I said "stalin tactics"? would that be a violation?
    Good enough, account terminated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    Good enough, account terminated.
    that makes absolutely ZERO sense....

    I'm glad this thread proved it's point, for the whole community to see.

    ask a very reasonable question, expect an answer? nope, get an ignoramous to say "good enough, banned"

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    Is this some sort of record for a ban/termination?

    Some people are their own worst enemy.....

    @HorseArcher2 this site is run by fans not CA/Activision/Sega and having a go at guys here about bugs in the game is silly....

    and as it's been said when you join the forum you agree to be bound by the rules, if you dont like the rules, then dont join.



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    In the end mate, your going to lose the war. While I don't care much for alot of them(moderators), they are the ones who have their fingers on the Locked/ban/warning button and most are not afraid to use it.
    On the whole, most do a decent job. But , catch em on a bad day and you will pay the price.
    Call it pmt, call it childish and unfair, goddamn, call it whatever you like, but the fact remains.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanCavalry
    that makes absolutely ZERO sense....
    I could say the same about why you posted so many threads on nothing...

    I'm glad this thread proved it's point, for the whole community to see.
    The only thing this thread has proved is that you double back on what you say when it suites you. Yes you did call CA nazis, you called anyone who is connected with CA Nazis. Take some time to read the many threads you've made and you'll see that. link I say you said that because It's pretty obvious you're the same person just with a diff account.

    ask a very reasonable question, expect an answer? nope, get an ignoramous to say "good enough, banned"
    No, more like "Warnings ignored, flamming of any group is not tolerated, spamming is not tolerated."

    Have a nice day.
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    The mods have an obvious interest in being slightly pro-CA because they want CA postings here. If it's a nasty bash fest, they won't get the CA posts and that would suck, so I have to agree with their position, even if it seems a little unfair sometimes. Though they do tolerate enough that it's not too noticeable.

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    Call it pmt, call it childish and unfair, goddamn, call it whatever you like, but the fact remains.......
    They are the ones in CONTROL! BEWARE!
    There is a reason we only have the ability to warn in our respective forums. It limits our wrath... which is a good check and balance just in case we do have a brain spasm.

    If someone called Taiwanese (or other nations) Nazis then I would definitly get out my latex gloves and bricks...

    what is the sound of two bricks clapping?













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    Quote Originally Posted by BrutalDictatorship
    SPAMMING THE HELL out of every visible site with information on it obviously drives them (CA) nuts, which in turn will force them to fix it.
    (my italics)

    Wrong.
    It just makes people who spam look puny and pathetic.
    The more spam like that and they won't join the discussion anymore
    because it doesn't make sense to discuss with premature childs
    and utter morons.
    Please take your alterego's and run off to mummy.
    We don't need patrons that can't discuss in a civilized way
    and we certainly need spam attacks like yours in colosseum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanCavalry/horsearcher/horsearcher2/brutaldictatorship or whatever you want to be called
    that makes absolutely ZERO sense.....
    I think it does, take a look at your posts in Watchtower.

    You fully deserve your ban! The mods are quite tolerant, so you must have done your best to get it.

    Rather very annoying how many idiotic threads you've posted in watchtower, all for the same subject, BTW.

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    Dont y'all have the ability to ban a particular IP address?
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    ooooooh stop it. youre the only one spoiling this forums. i think youre now the most hated ex-member on the .org
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    what is the sound of two bricks clapping? Mush: ... Castration

    OUCH! I can actually feel that. It begins as a dull throb in my groin, then I need to clear the mind and repeat over oand over....."think of nothing, think of nothing"
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    ooooooh shut up you crazy bastard. youre the only one spoiling this forums. i think youre now the most hated ex-member on the .org
    Oooh, that comes dangerously close to defying one of the golden rules here at the org forums?
    Can I hear/feel a warning coming on?
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    I thought that only applied to other patrons which Mr. Cheesed**k clearly isnt as his account got deleted.....













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    I weep bitterly over wasted minutes while going through this ridiculous thread.

    Pape, lend me a pair of those bricks? Thanks ya, m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    Good enough, account terminated.

    You deleted his account?? OUCH...

    I guess emotions are flying high around here. Maybe both parties should calm down a little and try and reconcile their differences like grown-ups instead of calling each other bad things and terminating accounts. Using 'Nazi' references and terminating accounts is simply unpleasant on an otherwise great forum.
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