Well, like I said PJ, we've blurred the line on what is a liberal as much as anybody. Like I said, I've heard Tom Ridge, Tommy Thomson and Pete Domenici described as liberals on different occassions. I don't think that's who Rove had in mind when he made that crack, but that's my point. He should have defined his target audience better.

The guy who's filling in for Rush today said Rove was doing a 'pied piper' trick with this. He was trying to lure Hillary, Joe Biden and others out of their 'moderate' costume. If that's the case, he burnt a lot of political capital for something most people already know.