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    thanks for the info Masamune

    I might take the 'risk' and just buy it, as it's very cheap, will obviously be annoying if I can't get it to work, as it is the original of the TW series and I know is supposed to be really good.

    Quite a few of the older games (in general) have problems working on XP, some can't work at all, others work fine (where you don't need to do anything), and some you just need to either tweak some stuff, or do certain steps.

    I.e.: I was very annoyed initially when I couldn't get Thief: The Dark Project & Thief II: The Metal Age to work (even though on the back of the boxes it said it would work on XP), but looking around some different sites and forums, I found out how it by alt + tabbing out of the game when it got to the main menu, pressing ctrl + alt + delete and then selecting the affinity (can't remember if it was selecting it as 0 or 1, but both couldn't be at the same time), the game would work fine, as result I also got the big fan made Thief 2X: Shadows of the Metal Age 'mod' (but actually it was like a new game, with story, etc)

    the only thing that wouldn't play were the movies, but the main thing was it worked. (And Thief 3: Deadly Shadows works fine without having to do anything, but then again that's much newer)

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    Good chance it will do just fine.

    Nice to hear people still trying this out! I'm sure you will enjoy STW.

    Good luck!
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    thanks

    yeah it's also worth getting so I can 'complete' the collection (excluding Kingdoms expansion for M2), I would have them all plus the great Europa Barbarorum for RTW)

    I'm also interested in that period, and am a big fan of primitive firearms (mainly up to matchlocks, but also interested in flintlocks)

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    the only shop I found Shogun in stock, was in 1 HMV store, they apparently have only 1 in stock, so I reserved that. Hopefully it is there, and I'll probably pick it up tomorrow.

    That version is the gold one I think (as on the phone they mentioned it was £4.99 and reissued by sold out software)

    http://www.sold-out.co.uk/support.asp?pid=281#783

    On one of the pages on sold out software, it says you can download Patch 1.02 Beta for "SHOGUN: TOTAL WAR WARLORDS EDITION"

    have any of you used this patch? I guess it helps the game?

    once again main worry is whether the game will work, or work properly, as even on their page on the FAQ, it has stuff like: "I sometimes don't get sound during the throne room animation or during other animations in the game"

    and more worryingly: "When I run the game in software mode, the camera moves *very* slowly and my framerate is poor when on the battlefield."

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    Don't worry about that stuff, see how it works for you, and if it doesn't let us know about it and we can have a good go at getting it working.

    The Throne room can be turned off as can all of the other videos. The startup intro videos I think can be renamed to skip them.

    What type of graphics card is in your system?
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    Hi there!

    You can try 'Minimum' install. (it probably won't install throne stuff then, so the problem would be gone- that is, if the throne room stuff really is the problem)

    Keep in touch!
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    Default Re: Need help installing on new comp

    thanks

    hopefully the videos could work anyway

    my graphics card is a ATI Radeon X300SE

    (running on Win XP Home SP2)

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    You may need to use older drivers, but try it first. If you already have MTW? And have it working with that card then you should be ok with Shogun as well. If that is the case then the only problem you're likely to encounter is the throne room bug.
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    wow

    I came home expecting the game either not to work, or not to work properly, and to my big surprise it not only works, but nearly everything seems fine. It actually runs smoother than MTW / VI.

    I bought Shogun Total War Gold Edition (reissued by Sold Out Software), only cost me £4.99 (cheapest TW game I've bought), includes The Mongol Invasion expansion.

    Was the only copy I could find in Central London (had to travel after attending a conference this morning).

    The only thing that sometimes happens is in the main title menu, where it can flick quickly and you see the trailer behind the mouse. But except for that, everything so far works fine. That includes the videos (which are very good), and the Throne Room. I take it the Throne Room is basically a place to get (general) tips?

    I tested custom battles, historical campaign and full campaign and they all work.
    (My graphics is Primary's Graphics, set on 1280 resolution).

    I actually find (part) of the graphics better than MTW / VI. There is a lot more atmosphere in the battles mainly becuase the scenery looks 'better' and more varied, with some very high mountains and hills. But mainly becuase of the clouds and weather, I Love how that looks, it's beautiful. I prefer the trees, and def think the buildings look better.

    As it's an older game, I can see some advantages that MTW / VI has, I think the main campaign has more depth in MTW, as you have the politics of the Pope (crusades, Jihad), and more emphasis on princesses? Although when I briefly played Shogun, I did place a lot of emphasis on Ninjas, and I think you can you use Geishas the same way?

    3 big things that I quickly noticed not present in STW / MI, was no artillery, buildings can't be destroyed/damaged (?), and buildings can't defend (i.e arrow towers & gatehouses, in MTW) which means less variation in warfare. Also there's no replay unfortunately. And of course there is less types of units,

    however that being said I read that STW is much more balanced the other TW games, and apparently the AI is tougher, in campaign mode I did notice they were more aggressive, trying to capture my provinces more so than in the other TW games.

    I really like the exotic feel to the game, and the music, videos and throne room really add to this.

    I read that some people have 1.02beta patch, as it was apparently released to help with a reinforcements issue. In one custom battle when defending, I actually managed to call in reinforcements, so it might actually be fine (and I didn't install the patch, also as people complained that the price of some units , buildings and their power changes if you do).

    MTW / VI works fine, but less smooth than STW, as sometimes in battle, the screen will 'mildly blink' (very quickly), and often when panning the camera with many units on the field, it can be fairly slow, but except for that it's fine, and has not crashed. RTW (& BI, Alexander & EB) seems fine, it's mainly M2TW when there are many troops, when it really gets laggy.

    I can see why they chose this era & Japan for their first TW game, as it really does fit the concept perfectly. Looking forward to playing more, and hopefully should remain fine.

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