Countdown to Open Beta - Casse

[Proper Gander]

i think i'll play them next, could start a campaign right now. yes, sounds good.

[jerby]

Transformers

somehow, it figures you knew this

[Birka Viking]

Wow...Great work as usual EB... These Casse looks realy beautiful..

[Dux Corvanus]

Oh yes, quite, I'm just pointing out that checks and plaid wasn't just a Celtic thing, though Celts did use it far more widely, and it was used by Celtic societies for hundreds of years after our period (and even into the modern period if one counts designs on the Scottish kilt, and the few proper Gaelic-Irish cloaks and shoulder cloaks still in use).

Curious enough that these very same designs have been also found on the mystery caucasian mummies from the Takla-Makan desert, in the heart of China. Those mummies -maybe Tocharian-related- may prove an early Far East-bound Celtic migration -a fact that the Chinese authorities try hard to conceal for nationalistic reasons.

[Greek_fire19]

Just a teensy weensy thing, but 'The holy Hill of Tara' wasn't at Emain Macha. It was at Tara. The fort of Emain Macha was at Emain Macha.

I have to assume that you are entirely aware of that in EB, so i'm guessing you have your reasons, but I'd like them to be clarified.

Anyhow, excellent preview, but I agree with one of the previous posters that the texture of the rycalwyre (sp?) is a bit...I dunno, bright and blotchy and cartoony. WIP I know, im just trying to be constructive

But yes, apart from that one of the most impressive previews so far, I look forward to the finished mod with ever increasing anticipation :)

[Teleklos Archelaou]

I don't know exactly what the reason is, but we do have to abstract it a little - Olympia is not in Korinth, but for our purposes it has to be to be in the game since it's in Korinth's province. If Emain Macha is the biggest city and capital for that province, and the unique is in that territory - then it's "in" that city.

[Krusader]

Good as always.
*Goes searching for a dice to see if its Casse or Sweboz, that is to be played when EB comes*

[GoreBag]

i think i'll play them next, could start a campaign right now. yes, sounds good.

[antiochus epiphanes]

nice, buti still think baktria was your best preview so far.
eta? anyone?

[Geoffrey S]

As always I'm looking forward to trying out this new faction on the various equally excellent looking neighbours. Nice work!

[Ranika]

Curious enough that these very same designs have been also found on the mystery caucasian mummies from the Takla-Makan desert, in the heart of China. Those mummies -maybe Tocharian-related- may prove an early Far East-bound Celtic migration -a fact that the Chinese authorities try hard to conceal for nationalistic reasons.

That would fit with numerous things we've found in recent years. I was told by a colleague who works mostly around China (has trouble working IN China, but sometimes gets the chance to) that he had been to a dig where they found twenty men buried in sacks, with anthromorphic-hilted swords, large oval shields (which had decayed badly, but were intact enough to identify), and large hooded cloaks, with bright blonde hair, and numerous heads (not preserved) in the sacks with them, along with other little trinkets like coins and pieces of flatware and such. We'd talked before at length about different cultures, and he came to the conclusion (though he only had a chance to briefly be a part of any examination) that they were probably Celts, because it resembled Celtic sack burials. That was in China though, and they were not apparently not friendly to the findings, and had the whole site closed down and kicked a few people out of the country. It's a very disturbing state of affairs, and a very sadly underexplored part of things, because, for my field, we know Celts went into the east, we have a vague idea when, but no idea what happened to them when they got where they were going, or if they ever did get where they were going. We find the occassional Celtic graves in the north of India, parts of east Russia, and places in between. It's surmised they may have affected even as far as Korea because a great deal of things in Korean art and myth do resemble things in Celtic art (such as 'lion-dogs', which show up in some eastern European Celtic metalwork).


Greekfire, yeah, we know, Teleklos explained. I'll explain the 'city' choice. Emain Macha had a large population center around it. 'Tara', at the time, had a very small center. The fort of Emain Macha was more important as an actual population center, where as Tara was more important as a religious and cultural center. If we can edit battle maps, I'd love for Tara to show up in the right place, so one could fight near it. It'd look pretty interesting, I think, to be able to fight near these special things we're adding, like Stonehenge and Carnac and the various special structures through Europe and Africa and west Asia, but I don't know if we're doing that or not. All that Tara at Emain Macha means is that it occupies the same province on the map.

[QwertyMIDX]

Ah...so a unit can't have two close-combat weapons unless it has the phalanx ability? Not even if you take the time to hold the alt key?

Not quite, infantry units can only have one melee skeleton if they don't use phalanx formation. So if they want a spear and a sword they have to either use phalanx or use the same animation for both weapons. Basically we can a spear and a predominatly thrusting sword without too much trouble but not a predominatly slashing sword, which the longsword was.

[Dago]

Oh man, this is great!!!

[Ignoramus]

How do you put pictures in your signature?

[Vercingetorix]

Nice catch. Looks like the giant fish of Britain with a Samurai on his back

OMG It looks like a pirate riding a flaming shark with lazers shooting swords on fire (cold fire)

[Dux Corvanus]

Ranika, that is not surprising. Actual Chinese rule establishes from above, that the ancient Chinese culture evolved and adquired its high civilization degree without any Western influence, and from their 'West-phobia', those late findings threaten their cultural nationalistic 'independence'.

What one wouldn't expect is that many voices in the Western world also claim against these evidences, by similar reasons. Why?

You've surely heard about the Himmler's akward Nazi historical theories about a primitive arian brood of supermen raising in Europe and bringing all forms of civilization to all the world. These mad theories point that the Asian cultures -and also African and American thru Schliemann Jr.'s Atlantis fantasies- had been born from this influence, and that Tibetan mysticism was a remain of ancient arian spiritualism -hence the 1930's Tibetan expeditions payed from Nazi budget.

By unfortunate coincidence, the late findings prove an early contact of both Western and Eastern world, and the admision by many of Central Europe as the origin of Celtic cultures does not help at all. Now, many people is willing to look aside from anything that may be wrongly interpreted as a confirmation of Himmler's mystical, racial and historical deliriums, even if it's just a funny coincidence.

Curious -and sad- how modern world goes on and on creating the past to fit modern day interests, conventions and traumas.

[Little Legioner]

Casse really looks cool but Aediu still had the best balanced unit roster.

[Mikeus Caesar]

OMG It looks like a pirate riding a flaming shark with lazers shooting swords on fire (cold fire)

I'm surprised someone went to all the trouble of making that...it was funny though. It just degenerated into utter random cr*p. Why was it a time-travelling castle!? Why did the laser swords have guns that shot more laser swords!?

[The Stranger]

Nice. Hopefully we`ll see Armenia next week, or has it already been taken?

-edit-
What exactly did you censor on that "Cairncalladryrdan" buliding?

a new feature perhaps. i dunno

[Quietus]

How do you put pictures in your signature?

You just put the url address of image you are using inside the img tags such as:

[img]url address[/img]

[TheTank]

How different are the midlanders units from the Casse units?
Are they less sword oriented then the Casse and how many different types of midlanders will EB include in this mod?

[Ianofsmeg16]

Will EB work if you already have Mundus magnus installed? just wanted to know....

[Mongoose]

EB will use an advanced version of MM. I would suggest you get a clean vanilla install ready for EB, mixing mods is hard.

[QwertyMIDX]

EB has it's own map, you'll have to install it over vanilla 1.2. I suppose you could use the MM map files and EB for everything else if you really wanted. I think you'll find our map is pretty much MM 2.0 though.

[Steppe Merc]

Let's see Parthia next.

I wish. However, we have to work with what we have done, and so factions people want to see might not have enough work to done to warrant an entire faction preview. But I assure you, I hope for more Parthian stuff as well.

[Mikeus Caesar]

No one's answered my question yet. Why the heck is there a pirate with an energy sword riding a burning shark just above ireland!?

[Spacemonk]

Yeah I'd like to know that as well. It's not like you can't notice it :p

[Teleklos Archelaou]

(Spelling it out) I-t-space-i-s-space-a-space-j-o-k-e.

[Spacemonk]

allright, sorry for not understanding the joke...

[Dux Corvanus]

I don't get it. Why is a space pirate riding a shark over Ireland?

(Now we hear a distant shot, right from Teleklos's home).