Templar Thread

[Brutus]

Templar fleet - Many Templars survived prosecution by going underground. Part of the fleet sailed to Portugal where the Templars simply took another name. The rest of the fleet set sail for Scotland where the Scottish independence movement provided an excellent cover. The Templars would repay their Scottish guardians by helping them defeating the English at Bannockburn a few short years later.

I've heard so, yes. However, I've also heard some of these ships actually reached the America's. Most importantly, however, it seems this ship contained the order's treasure (see "National treasure"? ). I personally find it hard to believe this were to be the Holy Grail itself. (also, that leaves the question: what ís the Holy Grail, or, better still, is it a person instead of an object?)

Where the accusations (sodomy, heresy, etc.) against them real or just retoric to prove them 'evil'? - They were false. It was made up so that their land and money would be siezed.

I'd say so too. It would certainly explain why indeed the Portuguese and Scottish kings didn't believe these accusations, and Philip was notoriously power-hungry (ask any Fleming on the .org). However, there are some disturbing sherds of evidence that there were some strange things going on within the order. For example, one of the order's memebers confessed new members were made to defile the bible and spit on the cross during their inauguration. This was supposed to prepare them against Muslim torture, he said. This explanation sounds highly dubious to me.

Did they find something below the Temple ruins in Jerusalem, and, if so, what? - Belived to be the holy grail which they took back to Scotland and placed under Roslyn Chapel outside Edinburgh - there are other places in the British Isles that it may have been taken to.

There also seems to be the theory they also found the stone tablets containing the Ten Commandments, I believe.

Do they still exist? - Yes

Could you clarify this? I'm most interested.

Was it a coincedence that both king Philip IV the Fair of France and pope Clement V died within a year after they brought Grand Master Jacques de Molay to burn at the stake? - Grand Master Jacques de Molay said that they would join him in death within a year - which came true

Indeed. Bad luck for them?