Proletariat 21:26 06-26-2005
For Christ's sake.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...23euroleft.htm
Can we assassinate these people?
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"It's the old anticapitalist, anti-U.S., anti-Israel crowd," says Vidino, who has been to their gatherings, where he saw activists from Austria, Denmark, Germany, and Italy. "The glue that binds them together is anti-Americanism." The groups are working on an October conference to further support "the Iraqi Resistance." A key goal is to expand backing for the insurgents from the fringe left to the broader antiwar and antiglobalization movements.
Steppe Merc 21:28 06-26-2005
Why exactly would people on the left fund terrororists who are certaintly not leftist at all?
Proletariat 21:29 06-26-2005
Erm, anti-Americanism is the idea put forth.
God please yes. I'm so sick of this shit.
Papewaio 21:44 06-26-2005
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The groups are an odd collection, made up largely of Marxists and Maoists, sprinkled with an array of Arab emigres and aging, old-school fascists,
Odd collection and certainly not all on the left... if facists are left wing in your world view I suggest doing a quick goose step to the left towards moderate.
Put them on trial for funding terrorist organisations.
Assassinate them only if you wish to admit defeat in this war on terrorism.
Crazed Rabbit 21:52 06-26-2005
If they're in countries that are helping us in Iraq (Britain, for example), put their sorry butts on trial for high treason.
I just can't believe how blind they are- they are giving money to destroy a democracy, freedom, justice, etc., just because they don't like the USA. A bit shortsighted, are we?
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God please yes. I'm so sick of this shit.
Ditto.
Crazed Rabbit
Auctoritas 21:55 06-26-2005
Putting these knuckleheads on trial raises some interesting questions about jurisdiction and potential penalties. It seems unlikely that if convictions were obtained in Europe that the sentences handed down would satisfy the U.S.
Similairly, if for some odd reason, the U.S. was involved in the prosecution of persons involved in this kind of activity, I can't imagine there not being a substantial backlash in those countries that ceded jurisdiction.
Honestly...killing these dirtbags would be a lot quicker.
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Honestly...killing these dirtbags would be a lot quicker.
I don't think anyone would object.
PanzerJaeger 21:58 06-26-2005
Americans dont understand just how much hatred there is of them in Europe.
Certainly not all Europeans, but a large group have bought into this ultra-leftist view of the world with America being the greatest evil. This makes them natural allies of arab extremists.
In any event, yes, these people are enemies of America and allies of terrorists so they need to be killed.
doc_bean 22:06 06-26-2005
Put them on trial for aiding terrorists, we have laws against that now !
Personally I really don't care if these people get killed, or shipped of to G'itmo. But as always, after they get a fair (and hopefully speedy) trial.
Saying these people are representative for Europe is like saying NAMBLA is representative of the average American. It's simply not true.
Proletariat 22:10 06-26-2005
I guess the name "Thirty Pieces of Silver" was taken.
Is the MSM gonna ignore this one too?
I know alot of marxists, alot of syndicalists and so on. None of them support any terror. I havent even heard one guy telling anyone that terror against the US forces is a good thing.
Could be tho that terror-supporters arent that numerus in Sweden.
Don Corleone 22:19 06-26-2005
Doc's got a point. If it turns out Joshka Fischer (sp?) is on the list of donators, you might have a point, but I don't think you can make any statements about Europe at large on this (other than they seem to have a pretty loose policy on what's allowed to be posted on European based web servers). I would take great offense to somebody claiming this (
http://www.americannaziparty) was the covert agenda of a large portion of Americans, yet there it is, hosted on a domestic US server.
Proletariat 22:25 06-26-2005
Well, I for one never said this was all of Europe. I just would hate to see their conference in October hit with an explosion of some sort.
edit: Actually, who in this thread said anything about Europe as a whole? The NAMBLA point was a strawman.
doc_bean 22:35 06-26-2005
Originally Posted by Proletariat:
edit: Actually, who in this thread said anything about Europe as a whole? The NAMBLA point was a strawman.
Sorry I guess it was me, mostly in response to
Panzer saying
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Americans dont understand just how much hatred there is of them in Europe.
I do think we can all agree that we don't like the people funding the terrorists and prefer to see them locked up or killed
Proletariat 22:36 06-26-2005
Well, I can still see why you'd want to point that out in a thread like this. It's a good point.
Btw, I like your new(?) signature quite a bit.
doc_bean 22:46 06-26-2005
Originally Posted by Proletariat:
Btw, I like your new(?) signature quite a bit.
Thanks, I guess everyone hates it when the rich and famous tell them how to live their life.
Tribesman 02:01 06-27-2005
One conference sponsor, Campo Antiimperialista (the Anti-Imperialist Camp), credits the 10-euro campaign for buying 2 tons of medicine for Al Anbar province,
Oh the evil bastards , they are buying medicine .
Kill them , kill them all(copyright Capo2004)
Steppe Merc 02:04 06-27-2005
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Btw, I like your new(?) signature quite a bit.
As do I. But if it said rock music, then I'd get angry...
bmolsson 03:39 06-27-2005
Another CIA report ?? Maybe it's time to clean the crystal ball......
PanzerJaeger 04:28 06-27-2005
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Oh the evil bastards , they are buying medicine .
Oh my God, tell me you're not defending these people now?
First terrorists, now terror supporters.. sometimes I wonder whose side you're on.
Proletariat 04:49 06-27-2005
Appalling.
Ja'chyra 11:22 06-27-2005
While I don't agree with buying them weapons how can anyone complain about them buying medicines?
No wait, I forgot that you need to do what America tell you, even if you aren't American.
English assassin 11:39 06-27-2005
I'm going to stick my neck out on this one and say that people who provide financial support to terrorists operating against a western democracy should certainly be killed immediately.
But, could the posters above offer some guidance on whether the UK may simply nuke Boston, or do we have to send over the SAS to take out the NORAID supporters one by one?
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First terrorists, now terror supporters.. sometimes I wonder whose side you're on.
I remember how that one felt.
PanzerJaeger 18:44 06-27-2005
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While I don't agree with buying them weapons how can anyone complain about them buying medicines?
No wait, I forgot that you need to do what America tell you, even if you aren't American.
These kind of comments only go to prove my above point.
(I cant believe Im having to spell this one out.)
The reason you do not want to support ter-ror-ism is because they kill in-no-cent people on purpose and want to destroy any chance at Iraqi freedom.
Good >
Bad >
This goes beyond your love/hatred of America - its about the Iraqi people now.
Ah, just like the old American supporters of the IRA...
Taffy_is_a_Taff 19:32 06-27-2005
American supporters of the IRA tend to be Americans with significant family links to Ireland (or, indeed, Irish immigrants).
I don't think anyone was making a big fuss about Muslim migrants to Europe donating to the terrorists. I think people were more bothered by indigenous lefties, fascists etc. supporting people who definitely do not share their world view but do intend harm to the US (and the Western World in general).
Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff:
American supporters of the IRA tend to be Americans with significant family links to Ireland (or, indeed, Irish immigrants).
I don't think anyone was making a big fuss about Muslim migrants to Europe donating to the terrorists. I think people were more bothered by indigenous lefties, fascists etc. supporting people who definitely do not share their world view but do intend harm to the US (and the Western World in general).
You get idiots anywhere. It's inevitable.
I think everyone is as bothered about Muslims supporting terrorism as anyone else. Whoever it is should be dealt with immediately. There should be no room to use freedom of expression to try and destroy it.
Ser Clegane 20:33 06-27-2005
If there is a support of terrorists from some fringe leftist groups in Europe (and quite frankly the link does not really provide any evidence for this allegation), I think that this support rather comes from somewhat naive and idealistic people who believe that they support some noble freedom fighters in their struggle against "imperialistic suppressors" (I'd like to point out that some links seem to date from late 2003, from a time when it was less obvious that a lot of these "insurgents" were actually targeting Iraqis).
The donation of 10 EUR also implies that this is hardly an organized support of an armed resistance.
A lot of the supporters of these organizations probably rather need an introduction to reality than a bullet in the head (and I think those who have wet dreams about killing these "terrorist supporters" also might benefit from a reality-check)
Taffy_is_a_Taff 20:36 06-27-2005
BDC: indeed, everybody is bothered about Muslim supporters of terror too but my point was that the initial gist of this thread was not about immigrants to Europe and their descendants so the comparisons to NORAID are not relevant.
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