Appeasement Will Not Work in Middle East

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 06-26-2005, 22:48

It has been enlightening to me. I'm originally from the Middle East. I was born in Jordan, and I lived there for about 21 years before I moved to the United States and I just want to share with you my perspective of the way people in the Middle East and in the Moslem world view us. They will hate us forever. The public image that we have is pretty bad. There is nothing we can do to improve that unless we do two things: Either try to convert them into democracy, or have them respect us. Respect is the only way.

I really think it's not going to change anything. The fact is that if you read the newspaper that's controlled, all the media that's being controlled by the governments of these Middle Eastern nations, they're all basically saying how the West is bad, how the United States is the root of evil; they're trying to influence, you know, the world, they're trying to take over. I mean if you look at all the propaganda that's being spewed over there, 'til today, I read it off the Internet, and I keep up with it, it is just appalling to me.

Absolutely. Mogadishu, Beirut. I mean they have that experience in the past -- and they feel like, any time we parade American soldiers being killed or executed, we going to feel like, "Oh, we need to pull out of there We can't keep going. This is ridiculous," you know? That's the understanding that they have, and this appeasement policy is not going to work. It's not going to change their minds. They've been brainwashed from a younger age, since they are in school, and in the media, everywhere, in mosques, everywhere, everybody is basically saying how to United States is so bad, how the West, you know, hate Moslems, and you're not going to change that overnight. I think strength, democracy is the only way to change that.

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Of course what does this guy know?

**Krypta** · 06-26-2005, 23:57

Of course what does this guy know?

Not much unless you wanted to hear from a uber right wing conservative. On the other hand if you wanted to know about OxyContin, Lorcet, Hydrocodone and black market drug rings, well then ofc you could consider him an expert on the matter.

**Tribesman** · 06-27-2005, 00:20

Of course what does this guy know?
Pretty much bugger all by the sounds of it , has he not examined your countries foriegn policy ?

**PanzerJaeger** · 06-27-2005, 04:01

Not much unless you wanted to hear from a uber right wing conservative. On the other hand if you wanted to know about OxyContin, Lorcet, Hydrocodone and black market drug rings, well then ofc you could consider him an expert on the matter.

I dont think you understand.

This was not Rush Limbaugh talking, it was someone from the middle east who called into his radio show.

Nice cheap shot though.. so clever.

**Krypta** · 06-27-2005, 06:08

I dont think you understand.

This was not Rush Limbaugh talking, it was someone from the middle east who called into his radio show.

Nice cheap shot though.. so clever.

Erm no. The fella is an American, living in the US who is originally from the middle east (you did read it, right?)...which I understood the first time around...and it still doesn't change the fact that Rush Limbaugh is an arrogant, digusting, drug addict, drug pushing, uber conservative. There is nothing cheap about it, unless there is some sort of virtuosity in being hooked on prescription drugs and running a black market drug ring.

Moreover, since when does the opinion of some faceless caller on some talk radio show count as fact or should even be presented as fact. Now, I would like to thank Gawain personally for finally cutting down one of his articles into a somewhat reasonable length, however, he (Gawain) forgot to include that the Caller(Mr Ali), from which we are to reason that "Appeasement Will Not Work in Middle East", hasn't lived in the Middle East in nearly 30 years! Of course that could be me being clever or maybe it's a crafty bit of selective editing, take your pick.

Furthermore Panzer if this is how you shape your outlook on the world, because so and so told you so, and your too lazy to read the article without already having your mind made up, you should be thanking me for being clever enough to point it out to you.