Help Bush

**Kagemusha** · 06-27-2005, 18:38

Where do you get that police thing?I havent talked about police in this whole thread.And no we didnt fight them with police. My country has little over 5 million people and we have over 5 hundred thousand men in reserves.Im Infantry 1st sergeant my self,in that reserve.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 06-27-2005, 18:40

Where do you get that police thing?I havent talked about police in this whole thread.

Right here

I think terrorist are groups of individuals who should be dealt as criminals.

**Kagemusha** · 06-27-2005, 18:48

What i meant they should punished in court of law like any other people.How to catch them, would you prefer chasing terrorists inside US with Army?That could be rather messy.Wouldnt you like to use maybe FBI and SWAT teams for the job?

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 06-27-2005, 18:54

would you prefer chasing terrorists inside US with Army?

Its against our law to use the army for these purposes within our borders.

Wouldnt you like to use maybe FBI and SWAT teams for the job?

We do

Im speaking of International terroism here. Clinton and the left consider it still a police matter not a military one as conservatives and Bush do.

**Kagemusha** · 06-27-2005, 19:02

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Im speaking of International terroism here. Clinton and the left consider it still a police matter not a military one as conservatives and Bush do.

Okay.That would be one ridicilous police operation.

About Al Qaida.I believe the bounties will work eventually and you may capture the main figures of Al Qaida.But rooting out any terrorist organisation will be very hard.

**PanzerJaeger** · 06-27-2005, 21:07

Be more aggressive abroad. Politically correct wars dont ever work..

**Kagemusha** · 06-27-2005, 21:22

Im speechless...

**Revelation** · 06-29-2005, 02:47

First I would kill Bush - he makes more terrorists than he kills.

That would be a good step. There certainly would be some great after assasination parties out there!

But as murder is not really condoned by the majority of the civilized world, I guess we need another solution.

As much as I despise the bastard, I believe he has done the right thing, in his own screwed up sort of way.
First, regardless of whether the Iraqi's needed liberating or not he needed a complete show of stregnth after 9/11 as a warning to the rest of the world. I think Iraq was just a convenient political target. After neutralizing Afghanistan, I raq was basically the next on the list.His reasoning behind the attack was misguided. Perhaps he would have gained more support had he used an excuse he could actually back with facts, rather than making up stories to suit his own ends. I wonder whether he is now regretting his decision to enter Iraq in the capacity of freedom fighter. Maybe a quick slash and burn approach would have been more economical , not only in monetary terms, but human lives also. He's certainly stirred up the hornets nest, and America will continue to pay for it for years to come.
Pakistan also gives refuge to a huge network of terrorists, regardless of the media statements saying otherwise,but the political ramifications of attacking them would have been devastating.

On the other hand, the USA has had it's finger in so many pies over the last 50 years, it can't expect not to get burned now and again. 5000 odd lives in 9/11 is nothing in comparison to the toll it has inflicted worldwide over the years.
Rwanda lost 1 000 000 to genocide and barely made headlines for a day a year or so after the event. America loses 1/200th of that and it's all we hear for months on end. Where's the justice?

Genocide and how the world did nothing

**Divinus Arma** · 06-30-2005, 15:18

Originally Posted by Revelation

5000 odd lives in 9/11 is nothing in comparison to the toll it has inflicted worldwide over the years.

You have the right to your opinion, but I think this statement represents incomplete thinking.

"Inflicted"?

What have Americans "Inflicted"? Aside from virtually ridding the world of many threats to freedom throughout history?

If it wasn't for America and our allies, the earth would be covered in the darkness of Nazis, Communists, or religious fundamentalists.

9/11 was an event which by America sees itself as completely changed. Prior to 9/11, the perception was that we are safe and invulnerable. Now that our lip has been bloodied, it has occurred just how vulnerable we really are. 9/11 created a national change in conciousness. A nuke could really happen.

As per the news on Rwanda and other miserbale places in the world, what are we going to do to fix it right this second? Not a damn thing. Look how screwed up Iraq is and it is costing America an unrecoverable fortune to fix.

Fixing the whole world is idealistic and impossible. A clear example Liberal thinking. Nothing wrong with being idealistic but keep your feet on the ground while your head is in the clouds.

"Let's help everyone, everywhere."

"Who will pay for it?"

"The rich!"

"So how will they afford to employ people and invest?"

"Who cares. They're rich and I'm not. Let's take away their money and give it to someone else. Like Africa or the poor urban mother with eight crack babies, or me. Oh. And kill Bush."

**PanzerJaeger** · 06-30-2005, 15:42

Rwanda lost 1 000 000 to genocide and barely made headlines for a day a year or so after the event. America loses 1/200th of that and it's all we hear for months on end. Where's the justice?

Its not America's fault other people are less civilized and resort to genocide.

The same people who condemn America for not acting in the Sudan, Rwanda, ect. condemn America for taking out a dictator in Iraq.

Why doesnt Europe take on the African problems instead of blocking action in the UN? They havent dismantled their militaries quite enough to lose to African nations - yet.

**Divinus Arma** · 06-30-2005, 14:59

Close America's porous borders.

Turn the entire middle east into a sheet of glass.

We must destroy our enemies before they destroy us.

But first we should all try to be friends.

**Ser Clegane** · 06-30-2005, 15:51

First I would kill Bush

Turn the entire middle east into a sheet of glass.

It's hard to tell if such statements are meant seriously or not, but I am pretty sure that they are not constructive answers to a serious questions, but are rather meant to be baits that are likely to drag discussions down into the gutter.

I would appreciate if people could limit their violent fantasies to e.g., playing the TW games or Battlefield 2, instead of carrying them to discussions where they are not really helpful.

Thanks for your attention