Experimental Fusion Plant to be built in France

[_Martyr_]

France narrowly wins over japan. One very important step in Fusion research!


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[Kagemusha]

If the Fusion power will be reality.It can chance the world as we know it.

[CBR]

If the Fusion power will be reality.It can chance the world as we know it.

Dont count on it heh. Most likely its gonna be huge and expensive powerplants.


CBR

[Kagemusha]

Dont count on it heh. Most likely its gonna be huge and expensive powerplants.


CBR

Yes its an possibility,but for a fuel i a prefer water over fossilic fuels.

[CBR]

Yes but its not gonna be water unfortunately. Its been some time since I last checked out the details of it so Im a bit rusty but... the current Fusion research is IIRC focusing on the easist fusion process which is the deuterium-tritium which is gonna leave a radioactive powerplant after its burned out (after 30-50 years of use or whatever)

The best but also most difficult one is the Helium3-Helium3 which has no problems with radioactivity but there is not much helium3 (taken from seawater AFAIK) for the whole world to use for very long, but can be mined from the Moon and yes its been calculated that it actually is worth it to start a mining operation to get the few tons or something like that we need.

But there might be someone who knows more about it than me...very likely indeed


CBR

[Kagemusha]

Yes but its not gonna be water unfortunately. Its been some time since I last checked out the details of it so Im a bit rusty but... the current Fusion research is IIRC focusing on the easist fusion process which is the deuterium-tritium which is gonna leave a radioactive powerplant after its burned out (after 30-50 years of use or whatever)

The best but also most difficult one is the Helium3-Helium3 which has no problems with radioactivity but there is not much helium3 (taken from seawater AFAIK) for the whole world to use for very long, but can be mined from the Moon and yes its been calculated that it actually is worth it to start a mining operation to get the few tons or something like that we need.

But there might be someone who knows more about it than me...very likely indeed


CBR

Im not an expert on this matter either.But im shure that someone will enlighten us dumbasses in this matter.

[Husar]

The best but also most difficult one is the Helium3-Helium3 which has no problems with radioactivity but there is not much helium3 (taken from seawater AFAIK) for the whole world to use for very long, but can be mined from the Moon and yes its been calculated that it actually is worth it to start a mining operation to get the few tons or something like that we need.

Mining the Moon souinds good at first, I had that idea long ago, the Moon is so big, if we could fully use it...
But(yes BP, starting a sentence with "but" ) if we mine the Moon, maybe we bring chos to our universe after some time, because the Moon will lose mass after time and that will alter it´s gravity, if we transport that mass to Earth, Earth´s gravity will be higher and that may be bad as well, I have no idea how much that would affect our little universe, but I remember the game Earth 2150, where mankind got the Earth to crash into the sun.

Wind generators with solarcells imbedded on the blades and the pole and the ground beneath them. Can be done right now, all you need is something to generate power from rain fall and you cover most weather conditions.

Turn the rotor 90° up so that the rain will make it turn.

[Watchman]

Ah, they finally got that little bicker done with. I sometimes wonder just *how* much political arm-wrestling actually goes on over these sorts of projects...

[_Martyr_]

Most certainly would. I cannot understand why on earth certain countries dont pour their seemingly limilless funds into this?? Come on, this should definately get the same sort of backing as the Apollo Program. If not for the direct result itself, but for the vast amount of spin-off technologies it will generate, most of which will now have a nice "Made in Japan" or "Made in the EU" etched into the side. I honestly cant for the life of me understand why America isnt putting a LOT more into this??

[CBR]

I would prefer they spend some of the money on developing solar cells. If we can get them cheap and running at 50-60% efficiency, as some are claiming can be done, then we dont have a problem.


CBR

[_Martyr_]

I would prefer they spend some of the money on developing solar cells. If we can get them cheap and running at 50-60% efficiency, as some are claiming can be done, then we dont have a problem.

Well, at present solid state Photovoltaic Cells get about 10-12 percent efficiency. Thats a long way to go. Then you've got the problem of energy production only during daylight hours, how does one store this energy viably to make a consistant power supply? There are a lot of inherent problems that make PV Cells more of an addition to another system, rather than a main power production method in itself.

Anyway, one does not exclude the other. ALL areas of renewable energy and "safe" nuclear alternatives should be given MAXIMUM priority in research funding.

[CBR]

AFAIK there are already cells running at 25% just very expensive yet. The idea is to expand the spectrum used and have multiple layers to get to the 50-60%.

Storing is one thing to consider of course but there is other exotic stuff like superconducting materials that improved on storage as well as cables that means one can export electricity over much longer distances.

And most electricity is used during daytime anyway I think.. but one thing is to produce hydrogen and use that in fuelcells as backup and we need to start making loads of hydrogen anyway when we run out of oil


CBR