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    Of course they are,before the Batman/Spidey thing gets over run thought I'd start this thread to yell about something ol'blighty kicks butt at.
    Anyone read V for Vendetta?What a masterpiece!The films out on November the 5th appropriatly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Electric Celt
    I'm thinking of catching religion just so I can pray they don't **** it up! !
    Sorry to break the news to you but it's Hollywood's strategy
    to mess up everything Moore ever wrote.
    So far they raped "From Hell" which has absolutely no resemblance
    to the book and I'm confident that "Watchmen" and "V for Vendetta"
    will also be reduced to meaningless celluloid waste, ending on DVD
    a week after release.

    Concerning the question which comics are better American or British,
    I slightly tend to British. They have some of the finest: Grant Morrison,
    Warren Ellis, Neal Gaiman...
    But what about Franco-Belgian comics or, my personal God in Comics, Hugo Pratt from Italy?
    Anyone sharing my enthusiasm for Moebius (FR), Jason Lutes (US) or Dylan Horrocks (New Zealand)?

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    *******spoiler warning**********

    Yup bud,
    I gather that the finale of the film involves a revolution of the populance dressed as V's ,not Moores wonderful cyclical ending,seen the mask though and they've got it spot on.A mask does not a faithful interpretation make,however.
    Glad to hear Gaiman mentioned,just finished an exquisite book of his short storys and The Sandman....brilliant ,definately not just for pasty faced goths,Grant Morrison-Zenith,pretty sure Garth Ennis is British,Preacher created with Steve Dillon Had me howling,trembling and musing too much.
    Would love to broaden my horizons,what stands out about those guys you mentioned R'as?
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    Anyone sharing my enthusiasm for Moebius
    Now your talking....that brings back memories.

    I dont think that you can really compare the two genres imo. American comics have Superheroes and (heroines) with superpowers (exception the Caped Crusader) whilst UK types tend more to gadgets and that sort of thing.

    Anyhow when you have Alf Tupper (the tough of the track) eating a double fish and chip supper 10 minutes before he runs the fastest mile in history....who needs superpowers?

    I vote GAH!!!!

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    Since I have no experience with British comics at all, I'm just going to have to look into them. Slaine's first.

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    I'm confident that "Watchmen" and "V for Vendetta"
    will also be reduced to meaningless celluloid waste, ending on DVD
    a week after release.
    *BKS's eyes pop out of his head at the prospect of a Watchmen film*

    Man...that would be so good if done right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
    *BKS's pop out of his head at the prospect of a Watchmen film*

    Man...that would be so good if done right.
    Come on, man! You know it won't be done right. Watchmen is a very deep, involved story involving alot of character development and flashbacks. Unless divinded into three films (The minutemen, New minute men and Watchmen), the film version will never ever work. And as previously stated, everything a film maker touches of Moore's gets turned to s**t. In fact, as i understand it, Moore has been so disappointed that he refuses to take any royalties from the films (He wanted to stop people making them, but his contactors didn't agree). Thus, poor Alan is stuck watching his creation get annhialiated on the big screen.


    B.O.T, I prefer America (Batman, GL, Supes, Spidey, X-men... i could go on forever). But my favourite writer (The aforementioned Moore) is British.
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    Watchmen is a very deep, involved story involving alot of character development and flashbacks.
    Hmm, I suppose you're right, the flashbacks would make it next to impossible.
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    talking of British comics...and I know this goes waaaaay back to the '60s....anyone get the Trigan Empire in (iirc) the Ranger and then later in the Look and Learn?

    Btw my favoutite was Janno , the Emporers son, but what a hothead.......

    Birds,Booze, Boyz and Drugz...just as well his Uncle was there to save him....
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    i dont know much british comics but i have seen comedy movies its annoying everything is in fast motion so american comcics are better

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    American comics have to be much bigger. I dont know about beetter as Ive never heard or seen a british comic while US comics are famous around the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    American comics have to be much bigger. I dont know about beetter as Ive never heard or seen a british comic while US comics are famous around the world.
    You've never heard of 2000 AD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion Officer
    i dont know much british comics but i have seen comedy movies its annoying everything is in fast motion so american comcics are better
    Umm, do you mean comics as in comedians? If so...perhaps this thread title should be changed to 'British comics books...' etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion Officer
    i dont know much british comics but i have seen comedy movies its annoying everything is in fast motion so american comcics are better
    Do you mean Benny Hill? If so, I feel obligated as a Briton to state that this is not, repeat, not, representative of our comedy. You should go and watch some Python. True gods.

    Anyway, as stated by Cygnus, this thread is about Comic Books, not comedians.
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    Umm, do you mean comics as in comedians? If so...perhaps this thread title should be changed to 'British comics books...' etc.
    I thought the same thing unntil i looked closer at the answers. Though y answer would be pretty much the same. I havent heard of a good british comic since benny hill.

    You've never heard of 2000 AD?
    No nor have I heard of any british comic. Face it their a flop over here.
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    Aw, Benny Hill is great. If there're two things my grandfather share, the second one is Benny Hill. It's even become more popular with the younger crowd these days, since the theme ("yackity sax") is hilarious and has been ported to other shows.

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    I feel like I've slipped into some kind of bizarre parrallel dimension. Benny Hill is terrible!

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    Gawain-You're missing out, you should seek out some back issues. You msut be familiar with Judge Dredd?
    Onlt the movie and has been said it sucked. Then again the last comic I read was back in 1968 and was spiderman 45 or something like that
    Would you believe I had every Maresl comic from issue 1 on until I stopped collecting them in 64? I also had all the good DC comics that came out from say 56 until 64 . I must haver had a couple of thousand of them . Its all I spent my allowance and other money on for the most part. Well that and toy soldiers. Man I could retire on those comics if I had them today.Spiderman, Ironman, Waspwoman and Antman, Submariner, Thor, The Silver Surfer,Metalmen, X-Men. As far as DC goes there are far too many to name.I cant wait for the Fantastic Four movie to come out in two weeks. Of course its got my favorite villian of all time Dr Doom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Man I could retire on those comics if I had them today.
    You really could. The father of a friend of mine has thousands of dollars in comics he could cash in on if he'd bother to set up a stall at a convention or something. What happened to yours?

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    Probably the same thing that happened to my Dad's, he sold them when was 17-20.

    I don't know if either British or American comics are better. They don't sell 2000 A.D. on this side of the Atlantic. If they ever did I never saw it for sale. The watchmen was good but way too morbid. You get the same thing with Marvel-man, or after some legal troubles renamed Miracle-man when sold in North america. Someone said when Moore wrote Miracle-man it was the most violent comic book, and when Gaiman wrote it the least violent.
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    What happened to yours?
    Well when I was 16 we moved and my mom and dad sais your noot briniging all that crap with you. I had an entire closet full of them. So I sold them to the Farmers Market comic stand for a penny each

    Ive never forgiven them
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    That's just harsh. Crap indeed; it's like saying you can't move out with all those useless stocks and bonds.

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    The Dark Knight series of graphic novels were pretty amazing.
    Has anyone else read these?

    It forced me to completely reasses my opinion regarding Batman.
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    I've never been much of a Comic Reader, but my guess is that they're biased towards each nation, American's pretty much love/like American Super Heroes exclusively, British love theirs, Japanese love theirs, etc. etc. Doesn't mean one is better than another, more so it's just cultural difference that most don't understand.

    I like Benny Hill...

    But Michael Palin,John Cleese, and Eric Idol are soooo much better.

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    Benny Hill was dreadful. He had one joke. Sorry make that two, I'm being unfair on the guy.

    joke one: slap a little blad guy on the head, and crank up the film speed.

    joke two:Chase scantily dress women about a park, (again crank up the film speed and play a mournful durge on a kazoo), through some lavatories (where bald man gets slapped again) and end by being persued by Police.

    Seen one. Seen them all.
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    joke one: slap a little bald guy on the head, and crank up the film speed.
    Face it, that IS funny.

    Apparrently Benny Hill and Mr Bean are the two most watched British comedies globally. (probably because they don't need translating). The world must think we are morons.

    Anyway, OT, V for Vendetta is probably the best "big expensive comic" (to quote Alan Moore) I've read and I loved 2000AD as a kid but I can't compare it to much American stuff.

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    Mr. Bean was just plain stupid. Benny Hill was so stupid, it was clever. It's kind of like propellors...they move so quickly, they look like they're moving slowly, backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    Mr. Bean was just plain stupid. Benny Hill was so stupid, it was clever. It's kind of like propellors...they move so quickly, they look like they're moving slowly, backwards.
    Why is that? It's always perplexed me. The propellors, I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
    Why is that? It's always perplexed me. The propellors, I mean.
    Time dilation. The tip of the propellor blade is moving faster than the middle, because it has a biger circle to go through. So according to relativity it actually moves backwards in time relative to the hub. The difference is quite small, of course, so the propellor seems to go backwards slowly.

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    Just rotate your head really fast to try and follow the path of the blades and you'll see they aren't actually going back words... it can just give you an aweful headache afterwords.

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