How to make Historical Battles

**Pericles** · 09-03-2005, 23:18

I have a question:

How can one determine the co-ordinates on a map so I can place units?

I have looked everywhere and have not seen this info posted.

In particular, I would like to modify existing battles but I would like to be able to place units where I like.

Thanks.

**Alexanderofmacedon** · 09-04-2005, 01:36

Some one needs to make the battle of Gaugamela, or Issus...

Or Hydaspis. That would be awsome!

**Pericles** · 09-04-2005, 22:54

Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon

Some one needs to make the battle of Gaugamela, or Issus...

Or Hydaspis. That would be awsome!

Those battles have already been made - you can find them in the Hellenic Total War Mod. Also, other battles are available at the Wargamer.com.

Cheers!

**AmbrosiusAurelianus** · 09-05-2005, 14:57

Originally Posted by Pericles

I have a question:

How can one determine the co-ordinates on a map so I can place units?

I have looked everywhere and have not seen this info posted.

In particular, I would like to modify existing battles but I would like to be able to place units where I like.

Thanks.

Pericles, this part of the guide relates to map co-ordinates.

Position – two number co-ordinate on the map with the first number being the x co-ordinate and the second the y co-ordinate. The average map is about 50k by 50k so a co-ordinate of 10000 40000 would be in the top left hand corner of the map. When placing units together you need to place them at intervals of 2000 for x co-ordinates and 1000 for y co-ordinates to allow them enough room to deploy. (Assuming they are facing north or south)

Apart from this it is just trial and error. Do not worry: it is not too difficult. It is just a little frustrating that is all.

**Pericles** · 09-05-2005, 21:11

Originally Posted by AmbrosiusAurelianus

Pericles, this part of the guide relates to map co-ordinates.

Position – two number co-ordinate on the map with the first number being the x co-ordinate and the second the y co-ordinate. The average map is about 50k by 50k so a co-ordinate of 10000 40000 would be in the top left hand corner of the map. When placing units together you need to place them at intervals of 2000 for x co-ordinates and 1000 for y co-ordinates to allow them enough room to deploy. (Assuming they are facing north or south)

Apart from this it is just trial and error. Do not worry: it is not too difficult. It is just a little frustrating that is all.

Thanks for the info.

I had read that bit previously, but thought it was just general information.

So this means that there is no utility to place units on a map?

It all has to be done through trial and error?

Now I know why there aren't more historical battles.

It's easy enough to alter existing battles, but to add new units to new battles will be tedious indeed...

How on earth did the creators of all these battles ever get all those units to line up properly?

**AmbrosiusAurelianus** · 09-17-2005, 14:51

Originally Posted by Pericles

Thanks for the info.

How on earth did the creators of all these battles ever get all those units to line up properly?

Lining them up is easy. Just put a unit in place. Then for the next unit in line keep one co-ordinate the same and change the other by 250 or whatever, to put the second to the side or behind etc. Once you have the first unit in place it's easy to place the others. It's just that getting the first one where you want it that can be tricky.

**Pericles** · 09-17-2005, 23:30

Originally Posted by AmbrosiusAurelianus

Lining them up is easy. Just put a unit in place. Then for the next unit in line keep one co-ordinate the same and change the other by 250 or whatever, to put the second to the side or behind etc. Once you have the first unit in place it's easy to place the others. It's just that getting the first one where you want it that can be tricky.

Thanks for that tip.

Much appreciated :)

Cheers!

**Dragoncrusader** · 10-23-2005, 12:16

Hi all,
The historical battles that we have written are available for download at:

http://www.3ddownloads.com/totalwar/...es_Historical/

We would like to hear how people have got on with fighting them, any improvements that they would like to suggest and if they have found out anything more about the historical battles files.

Also I was toying with the ideal of a similar guide for RTW, if anyone has information. Battles have been written for RTW but not a how to guide.

**AmbrosiusAurelianus** · 10-24-2005, 17:37

Originally Posted by Dragoncrusader

Also I was toying with the ideal of a similar guide for RTW, if anyone has information. Battles have been written for RTW but not a how to guide.

Hi, Dragoncrusader! Long time no see!

The idea for the guide to RTW historical battles is a geat one. Good luck with it. Sorry I have stopped e-mailling a while back, but I never managed to get any more battles done. Did you get any more done or ever figure out that wretched sandstorm problem?

I have been busy as part of the Iberia Total War team translating the mod into English. We have done some historical battles but I did not make them, only translate the descriptions.

I shall ask the rest of the ITW team who was responsible for them and how they did them. If I have any findings I shall report back when I can. Nice to see you around again.