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    Default Re: Modern MSM coverage of D-Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Laridus Konivaich
    Why are you all applying modern morals to old conflicts!?!? This is a very bad problem because think about it, things were DIFFERENT in 1776 or even 1944!!! Everyone is just being very INSESITIVE and HISTORICAL REVISIONIST!
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    To be fair, I first thought it was the usual French-bashing jokes, used against the Italian, Germans, Russians or whatever nationalities it suit to insult or ridicule… After a second reading, I find it quiet interesting in the distortion but supposed parallel.

    The American did kill a lot of French before, during and after the D-day (see Royan and Lorient –that was a town completely wiped out by the US bombers-). Some did complain but the vast majority understood it was the price to pay… However, the Allies went in France not to expel French Vichy Dictator Petain but the Germans… No French forces opposed the Allies when they landed but helped them by destroying phone line, railways, bridges, delaying German reinforcement to reach the battle field, and even a tiny force of Free French (the Commando Kieffer, around 300 men) took part in the landing. Where is the Iraqis’ equivalent?

    I pass on the exoskeletonless French crabs… I think to go against the almighty US power is all but spineless (perhaps arrogance), knowing the retaliations (we will forget Russia, forgive Germany and punish France, Mrs Rice, actually in charge of the US Foreign Policy)… I also wonder why the US is so frustrated about the lack of support from France if the French are so weak, coward, and all others qualifications…

    The French were deliberately kept in ignorance of the landing, because the US and the UK feared De Gaulle political appetite (by the way, Roosevelt took a long time to finally abandon the idea to reach an agreement with Petain. Is the parallel still valid? In Algeria (after Torch operation) they installed the admiral Darlan, a Petainist who kept the anti-Semitic laws on the territory without objection from the US General Clarke.
    The Iraqis didn’t have troops and were convicted in some country. Difficult to be a hero nowadays, helas poor Yorick…
    A question, Saddam is Petain or Hitler? No need to answer.

    A simple letter from Einstein wouldn’t have changed US politic. What changed US politic was Pearl Harbour and Hitler’s declaration of war against the US…
    The assertion of the atomic research from the Nazis were largely proved after the fall of the Nazi Regime (even before, remember the Norwegian Commando, brave and great men). We are still waiting the equivalent for Iraq, after what, two years of liberation and few years before the invasion of constant bombing of Iraqis positions, in which English, US and (yes) French (until it was stopped by Chirac) planes regularly bombed missiles sites, radar and all other installations…
    By the way, the International inspectors stay around 6 years in Iraq…

    The “mistreatment” (as you call the extermination), of the Jews was fully proved and Nuremberg Tribunal was held. We are still waiting for Saddam.

    For the collect of the corps, your journalist mixed up a little bit. The US soldier’s corps were collected, it was the civilians French/Iraqis one which were left on the ground. Because, as reported, the US and Allies fought against the Germans… Not against the French.

    But, at the end, it is a good journalistic report. Mixing fiction and facts, selecting facts and confusing the events, simplifying the events and the goals, perfect, you win a Pulitzer with that. You add a good picture. I suggested a picture of the French Civilians putting down a statue of Hitler. Oh, no statue of Hitler in France: it doesn’t matter, import one from Germany…
    And the French resistance and Free French Armies didn’t turn their weapons against the Allies quiet immediately after the liberation… Just kidding, ignore what is against your purpose…

    What I want to say is this pathetic (and not sarcastic) message of such text is counter-productive. It just shows the deep ignorance of the author, his confusion and the will to distort reality. I foresee here a great career as future politician or journalist
    Last edited by Brenus; 07-01-2005 at 22:44.
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    Default Re: Modern MSM coverage of D-Day

    What I want to say is this pathetic (and not sarcastic) message of such text is counter-productive. It just shows the deep ignorance of the author, his confusion and the will to distort reality. I foresee here a great career as future politician or journalist
    Both examples printed here just show that the problem today is the media. We could not have won either war with press like we have today.
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