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Thread: Velite & Mirmillo Gladiator
Coldfish 01:48 06-30-2005
I`m playing Julii....and i have imperial palaces,urban barracks,and colisseums too....why can`t I train velite gladiators or mirmillo gladiators ??...only samnite gladiators i can.

thanks

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professorspatula 01:56 06-30-2005
Each Roman faction gets 1 type of Gladiator to build and that's your lot matey. But forget those overpaid slaves - stick with peasants!

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Coldfish 02:01 06-30-2005
thanks ....i thought i could train all 3 of them

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Muska Burnt 02:53 06-30-2005
i dont recruit the any gladiators i just stick with urban cohort

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pezhetairoi 05:13 06-30-2005
But in the early stages of the game, before Marians, gladiators are yumyum.

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Productivity 06:02 06-30-2005
Originally Posted by Centurion Officer:
i dont recruit the any gladiators i just stick with urban cohort
Gladiators are useful, they (along iwth Arcani) are the only two hit point units that the romans can train. 2 hit point units are extrememly useful under some circumstances.

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player1 08:26 06-30-2005
Like battles on stone walls...


They are also resistant of cavalry charge due to 2HP.

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Dutch_guy 10:49 06-30-2005
And velite glads have that really good bonus against ele's and chariots.



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Garvanko 11:34 06-30-2005
You'll never need Gladiators if you have Urban Cohorts.

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Dutch_guy 12:11 06-30-2005
well you can get velite and samnite glads before you can get urbans - velite only need an arena and samnites with an amphitheater , so if you like gladiators you can use them far before you can built urbans, only the mirmillo glads are really overshadowed by the urbans , since you can only get mirmillo's once you built a colosseum.

I agree though I like urbans better and use them more ( well not anymore with RTR ) glads make a welcome edition to any army.



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Productivity 13:34 06-30-2005
Originally Posted by Garvanko:
You'll never need Gladiators if you have Urban Cohorts.
Didn't we just cover this? I'll accept this when you show me the Urban Cohort that has two hit points...

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Lancome 14:13 06-30-2005
Like some dude above me said, Glads are very good when attacking walls. Well, except for the Velite Glads They are just useful for their spears.

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master of the puppets 15:36 06-30-2005
the only time i use gladiators is in mass. if i don't have any urbans but 4 cities with colleseums then i built 4 gladiators. and in battle i mass them all in a solid block and charge them twards the most steadfast enemies, the tear threw um really well.

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Mahrabals apprentice 15:52 06-30-2005
I have ever bothered using glads in the game, i prefer my legions. I have only used them in custom battles where they are a decent flanking force.

Marmillo from behind : )

If i ever played as brutii i would used velite though, i just can't deal with chariots and they might be the answer i was looking for

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Nelson 16:20 06-30-2005
I build a gladiator unit in big cities just because they were there historically. They can defend the city and put down rebels. I seldom campaign with them but they do add color.

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Come Together 20:24 06-30-2005
Gladiator's also seem to be great cushions to ranged attacks. Their high armor and 2 hp make them rather good at survival, and all archers seem to target them. Not to mention their huge moral always seems to keep them in the battle.

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Mahrabals apprentice 22:57 06-30-2005
that seems like a waste of good gladiators to me

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Lancome 01:02 07-01-2005
Originally Posted by Mahrabals apprentice:
that seems like a waste of good gladiators to me
You can always make New glad's from Captures soldiers.

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pezhetairoi 02:46 07-01-2005
...you can? Or was that a joke :-P

Anyway. Gladiators are good in cities because of their loose order, their 2 HP and their awesome fighting skills. (We're talking pre-Marian here.) They're beyond anything the Hastati or Principes can give you. I always take along a unit or two of gladiators of whatever Roman faction I am, and I use them liberally.

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antisocialmunky 03:58 07-01-2005
I wonder how they do against other 2HP units like Bull Warriors and Spartans, not too well I would imagine.

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xemitg 04:53 07-01-2005
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky:
I wonder how they do against other 2HP units like Bull Warriors and Spartans, not too well I would imagine.
Don't underestimate gladiators.

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Marquis of Roland 16:37 07-01-2005
If I remember correctly, someone said that if you can bribe another Roman factions gladiators to your side and they won't disband.

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bubbanator 16:53 07-01-2005
I find gladiators very useful in taking any city.

In a custom battle with wooden walls:

break the wall however you please, send in one group of fully upgraded gladiators followed by 2 groups of fully upgraded urban cohorts, followed by most of your other ground troops. Through another hole in the wall, you send in your cavalry and break your enemy.

I must leave for the next week so I will finish my thoughts later...

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