Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Bravest Footballers ever?

  1. #1
    Clan Clan InsaneApache's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Grand Duchy of Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,636

    Default Bravest Footballers ever?

    THE BRAVEST FOOTBALLERS EVER?

    "I once read that in a cup final during the great famine of the 1930s, there were three Ukrainian brothers on a Kiev team that beat a team from Moscow, which was sponsored by the secret police," said Ian Walmsley in 2001. "Unfortunately, Stalin is reputed to have ordered the game to be replayed for political reasons; and the brothers warned not to win again. As an act of defiance on behalf of the starving Ukrainian people the Kiev team won the replay and the brothers disappeared into the Gulag. Is this true, or just a myth? If it's true, they must be the bravest footballers ever."

    It seems that the events you describe didn't quite happen, Ian, but something very similar did. In 1942 Stalin did send a set of footballing brothers to the gulag - but they played for Spartak Moscow, not Dynamo Kiev. That same year, however, most of Dynamo's team were executed by the Nazis after refusing to throw a series of "friendly" matches.

    We'll get the Spartak story out of the way first: Nikolai, Andrey, Petr and Alexander Starostin, the popular brothers who led Spartak to the USSR championship in 1937 and 1938 were illegally arrested as "public enemies" in 1942 by Stalin and dumped in the gulag. They were only released thirty years later. Alexander - the man who founded Spartak in 1922 - returned to the club to become "club leader" until his death in 1996.

    Meanwhile, when Kiev was occupied in 1941, members of the Dynamo team found work in Kiev Bakery No. 1 and started to play football in an empty lot. The Germans offered them the opportunity to train in the Zenith Stadium and suggested a friendly with a team picked from the German army.

    The Ukrainians accepted the offer, named their team Start and the match took place on June 12, 1942. The Germans, in good physical condition, scored the first goal. But by half-time Start had edged 2-1 ahead, much to the anger of a German officer from the Commandant's box who stormed into the team's dressing room and ordered them "not to play so keenly" - threatening to shoot them if they did not obey.

    But Start ignored the warning and surged into a 4-1 lead. At that point the German Commandant of Kiev, Major-General Eberhardt, and his staff left, and the referee ended the game early. On July 17 the Germans fielded a stronger team, but still lost 6-0. Further Dynamo victories against the Hungarian team MSG Wal (5-1 and 3-2) followed.

    The German administration was so outraged that they decided to teach the Ukrainians a lesson - and so the "ever victorious" German Flakelf team was invited. But this German team also lost to Dynamo and not a word about it appeared in the newspapers.

    The Ukrainian team were given three days to think about their position and on August 9th there was a "friendly" rematch. In spite of the warnings Dynamo again defeated the German team - for the last time. Most of the Ukrainian team members were arrested and executed in Babyn Yar, but they are not forgotten. There is a monument to them in Kiev and their heroism is said to have inspired the film Escape to Victory.



    It does make you think how many of todays footballing millionaire chavs of today would do anything like this.....remarkable
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

  2. #2
    Ambiguous Member Byzantine Prince's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    4,334

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    Maradona spitting on the referee, now that takes real balls. Not that what you wrote doens't. Not that I read that whole thing.

  3. #3
    One of the Undutchables Member The Stranger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Nowhere...
    Posts
    11,757

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    pretty brave indeed. getting threatened to death like 7 times and ignor 7 times is courages. what maradonna did was just stupid.

    We do not sow.

  4. #4
    The Breath of God Member Divine Wind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Guarding the Shores of Japan
    Posts
    1,317

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    Pyscho would get my vote as the bravest footballer ever! Thats Stuart Pearce to anyone who doesnt know him. I remember in one of his last few seasons, he broke his leg during a match and carried on for another 10minutes until the physio practically dragged him to hospital. Legend!
    "To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
    -Sun Tzu, the Art of War




  5. #5
    Clan Clan InsaneApache's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Grand Duchy of Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,636

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    lol yup old 'thunder thighs' Pearce...but nothing compared with Bert Trautman, who played for Manchester City.

    'In 1956 City beat Newcastle in the FA Cup Final when legendary goalkeeper Bert Trautman played on after breaking his neck.'

    Still a legend in my old home town.....and he was a POW IIRC thats when he learned English.

    Hard men for hard times I suppose...
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

  6. #6
    One of the Undutchables Member The Stranger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Nowhere...
    Posts
    11,757

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    wow, those men are crazy. todays hero soccer players are crying for their mommies as soon as the ball hits the wrong place. you get a hit and their on the ground doing theatrics

    We do not sow.

  7. #7
    The Orgs Prophet of RATM Member IrishMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Somewhere in the defensive area of a soccer field, slaughtering puny strikers.
    Posts
    903

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    We had a boy play for the high school I currently play for that got his leg broke, continued to play in the game, scored the goal to win the game, drove himself home, woke up the next morning and drove himself to the doctor.

    He's a legend and mostly worshipped by us for that act. Even though he's long graduated.
    When ignorance reigns life is lost.

    War is norm, Fight the War, Screw the norm!

  8. #8
    Very Senior Member Gawain of Orkeny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Centereach NY
    Posts
    13,763

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    These guys are all wimps try playing real football.
    Fighting for Truth , Justice and the American way

  9. #9
    Clan Clan InsaneApache's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Grand Duchy of Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,636

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    OK I'll bite

    These guys are all wimps try playing real football.
    I roflmfao....You Yanks...and they say you have no sense of humour and irony....u guys crack me up....

    I was talikng about real FOOTBALL not that pansy game you guys call football....all armoured up an' shite....

    Just as well you left the Empire...you'd never keep up
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

  10. #10
    One of the Undutchables Member The Stranger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Nowhere...
    Posts
    11,757

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    american football is a gay sport. you see the guy that says HUT green 28, touching the ass of the guy with the ball. and they're calling it an mans sport. wimps

    We do not sow.

  11. #11
    Chief Biscuit Monitor Member professorspatula's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Inside a shoe.
    Posts
    1,158

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    Rugby Football. Now there's a tough game those former colonials have failed to grasp. They take the fun out of it in their version. It's all padding and stopping for a breather every 5 seconds whilst scantily clad ladies dance about on the sidelines. At least with the Australian version of football, they have still enjoy a bit of on-the-pitch fisticuffs. Being toothless means you're 'ard!
    Improving the TW Series one step at a time:

    BI Extra Hordes & Unlocked Factions Mod: Available here.

  12. #12
    Clan Clan InsaneApache's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Grand Duchy of Yorkshire
    Posts
    8,636

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    Being toothless means you're 'ard!
    Someone has to pick that up as a siggy
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

  13. #13
    Boondock Saint Senior Member The Blind King of Bohemia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    England
    Posts
    4,294

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    My vote would go with Gary Mabbutt whose face shows the scars of time in footie. Also Terry Butcher and Jurgen Klinsmann for simply surviving Mark Bosnich nearly killing him at Villa Park with a horrendous challenge in 1994/95

  14. #14
    Chief Biscuit Monitor Member professorspatula's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Inside a shoe.
    Posts
    1,158

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    Philip Neville gets my vote as bravest footballer.

    Surviving life and the fans with *that* face.

    Brave man.

    My heart goes out to him.

    Philip Neville: Giving the aesthetically challenged hope.
    Improving the TW Series one step at a time:

    BI Extra Hordes & Unlocked Factions Mod: Available here.

  15. #15
    Mediæval Auctoriso Member Member TheSilverKnight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Madrid, España (University)
    Posts
    2,608

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    Someone has to pick that up as a siggy
    Done and done!
    "I'm like the Vikings -- I come here, I steal your women, your booze, your dough, and then I go back home." ~ Wiz
    "Play RTW and wait till 1,000 people die and look at them from above. Then tell me it was worth the oil." - Byzantine Prince

  16. #16
    Chief Biscuit Monitor Member professorspatula's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Inside a shoe.
    Posts
    1,158

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    I hope you're paying royalties for the use of all those half-inched quotes.

    A bag of roasted peanuts will suffice for me. Just not those Dry roasted ones that make your mouth feel like the Sahara desert, plus reek like B.O.
    Improving the TW Series one step at a time:

    BI Extra Hordes & Unlocked Factions Mod: Available here.

  17. #17
    The Breath of God Member Divine Wind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Guarding the Shores of Japan
    Posts
    1,317

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by professorspatula
    Philip Neville gets my vote as bravest footballer.

    Surviving life and the fans with *that* face.

    Brave man.

    My heart goes out to him.

    Philip Neville: Giving the aesthetically challenged hope.
    I guess Luke Chadwick should get a mention as well then mate
    "To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
    -Sun Tzu, the Art of War




  18. #18
    Very Senior Member Gawain of Orkeny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Centereach NY
    Posts
    13,763

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    I roflmfao....You Yanks...and they say you have no sense of humour and irony..
    Says who?

    american football is a gay sport. you see the guy that says HUT green 28, touching the ass of the guy with the ball. and they're calling it an mans sport. wimps
    Ever tried playing it against some Americans? You will get hurt that I can garuntee.

    It's all padding and stopping for a breather every 5 seconds whilst scantily clad ladies dance about on the sidelines. At least with the Australian version of football, they have still enjoy a bit of on-the-pitch fisticuffs. Being toothless means you're 'ard!
    Weve been over this before. American football is more like a war with the plays being manovers trying to set up a major attack. Its about strategy. For the time while the balls in play its much rougher than any European versin of football. If they didnt have all that padding on people would die and still sometimes do. The padding makes the game faster and harder hitting than if they didnt have it. If you ever played it you would know that when you dont have pads you cant be as reckless and throw your bady around like you do with it on. Also this so called padding comes in very useful as a weapon.
    Fighting for Truth , Justice and the American way

  19. #19
    Mediæval Auctoriso Member Member TheSilverKnight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Madrid, España (University)
    Posts
    2,608

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by professorspatula
    I hope you're paying royalties for the use of all those half-inched quotes.

    A bag of roasted peanuts will suffice for me. Just not those Dry roasted ones that make your mouth feel like the Sahara desert, plus reek like B.O.
    Your industrial-sized bag of roasted peanuts are on the way.
    "I'm like the Vikings -- I come here, I steal your women, your booze, your dough, and then I go back home." ~ Wiz
    "Play RTW and wait till 1,000 people die and look at them from above. Then tell me it was worth the oil." - Byzantine Prince

  20. #20

    Default Re: Bravest Footballers ever?

    im not gonna die for a fucking pig skin.make it a close game.come back few days later with tommy gun.
    VAE VICTUS-PaNtOcRaToR
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomi says
    Honour is that which preserves the dignity of the human spirit.
    It’s how you treat people, that makes you an honourable person.
    Not how many battles you win.
    The glory of your victories will soon be forgotten.
    But the kindness and respect you show for others, will not.
    So is there really any honour in Total War games?
    No.
    But there is in some of it’s players…

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO