Teutoberg Forest Historical Battle

**Afro Thunder** · 07-01-2005, 23:33

Is it even possible to win this battle as the Romans? It seems damn near impossible to get my troops into the city within 20 minutes, what with those pesky Germans interfering with my column.

**Lancome** · 07-01-2005, 23:46

I did it once, all you have to do is send them as groups of 3. Send the 1st group of 3 to battle the Nazis while the rest of the army by passes them and repeat the prossess.

**Afro Thunder** · 07-01-2005, 23:51

I figure it would be a lot easier if I didn't have that ridiculous 20 minute time limit. Hmm, maybe I should go exploring in some of the text files in the game?

**Kekvit Irae** · 07-01-2005, 23:56

The first time I fought the battle, I was thoroughly wiped out because I was concentrating on getting my troops to run down the road instead of fighting. Concentrate your troops on standing and fighting. Using your cavalry to flank is the key winning tactic here. Once the majority of the troops are gone, make a beeline toward the encampment. The second and third time I played the battle I didnt have much trouble.

And Lancome, let's avoid calling the Germans "Nazis", ok? This is the Roman era, not the 1930s.

**Marquis of Roland** · 07-02-2005, 00:08

I don't get it, I beat it first time no problem.

I guess you have to flank quick and kill them quickly to make the time limit. I think my troops ran the whole time. I made it though.

I thought the one where you're Julius Caesar fighting the gauls in a failed ambush was harder.

**Marcellus** · 07-02-2005, 00:19

Once, out of frustration, I just selected all my units, ordered them to run into the centre of the camp, put the battle onto maximum speed and left them to it. I can't quite remember if it worked, but I have a feeling that it did!

I wouldn't recommend it as a tactic though.

**Infidel** · 07-16-2005, 02:16

Originally Posted by Lancome

I did it once, all you have to do is send them as groups of 3. Send the 1st group of 3 to battle the Nazis

Battle the what?

Germans about 2000 years ago are Nazis to you?

You better turn on your brain before posting, kid.

Infidel

**Rodion Romanovich** · 07-02-2005, 19:25

@topic starter: what? I thought Teutoburg forest was one of the easiest battles

I just first withstood the first assault by turning half the men to the left and half to the right, then when the enemies were pinned I charged in with my cavalry to their rear - barely lost any men at all really. Then when most were routed I formed column shift+8 with all the legionaries, whom I grouped, while hunting some routing enemies with my cavs until about 80 percent were dead. I RAN the column through the forest along the road, not stopping much unless the enemies were so many around me that my cavalry couldn't handle them alone. All roman troops in the Teutoburg battle are high experience and can handle some running and still be fit for battle. Not until I reached the second large ambush did I halt the troops again, using the same procedure as last time - turning half of the men left and half of them right and pinning the enemy, using the cavalry to charge the rear of the enemy. If I remember correctly you also have archers and stuff like that, but they don't matter much. If you deploy them cleverly you can inflict some extra casualties and draw the attention of the enemy missile troops at times, but really the battle there isn't much of a problem if you just run the men in column formation most of the time. As I said, their superior experience makes them able to fight well enough to kill the germans even when they're tired.

I think another trick is to make sure to hunt down enough of the routing enemies after the first ambush. If you do, you'll only have to fight one more battle of significant size along the way. That's a good way of saving time. Also, your cavs might get tired hunting down 90 percent of the routers from ambush one, but they can walk along the footmen at almost the same speed the footmen run, and thus get some rest so they're fit again for the last ambush. In fact, this tactic to make the router-hunting after the first ambush battle as complete as possible gives you more time. Also, as soon as all enemy units are routing, move on with the footmen while the cavs are hunting. Since most of the first ambush is gone with these tactics, they don't need any help from the cavalry until they get to the second bigger ambush.

Also I think you can win the battle by cheating by sending your cavalry only around the area where the german ambush is and reach the city. You have 100 cavalrymen so that should be enough to win the battle without any fighting. Haven't tried it myself though.