nuggetthegreat question from MTW Guide Forum

[Weebeast]

I guess the major religion was Islam in that particular province so the "rebels" joined/became Almohads. If the rebels were catholic or whatever, Almohads probably have to fight them. It's a case pretty much like the steppe pagan rebels joining Golden Horde.

Factions don't have emmisaries when re-emerging so the rebels couldn't have been bribed lol. Plus, all agents, ships, princess, etc are gone once a faction is eliminated.

but it is impossible to bribe royalty. im sooooo confused and angry

Rebelling princes can be bribed (once they're rebels of course).

[Martok]

I guess the major religion was Islam in that particular province so the "rebels" joined/became Almohads. If the rebels were catholic or whatever, Almohads probably have to fight them. It's a case pretty much like the steppe pagan rebels joining Golden Horde.

I think you've probably hit the nail on the head, Weebeast. It's the only reasonable explanation that makes any sense.

And for what it's worth, I *have* seen rebels join a reborn faction before--although I don't think I've seen it happen on quite the scale that Nugget is describing. I mean, all of his provinces joined the Almos?? I have to admit that's pretty crazy, not to mention beyond anything I've encountered. I've had as many as 3-5 provinces join a resurrected faction, but not all of them!

[Ironside]

It depends if it's all or "all" provinces.

If every single one of the provinces joins the Almohads, then it's the inheiritage by marriage bug. His royal line died out, he got a civil war but before that, his kingdom joined the Almohads. Thus you don't die out, but you don't have any land or troops left. But it sounds odd as the Almohads had been killed.

If it's most of his provinces and considering that his empire seems to consist of Spain, Northern Africa and Southern France, I'm guessing faction re-emergence. If the Almo re-emerge in thier former provinces and some rebels next to the Almohads joins up, most of his empire would end up as Almohads.

[Ciaran]

My best bet is a massive faction re-emergence. I had something similar happen a while back (see the empire pictures thread), where re-emerging factions got huge numbers of provinces. I suppose it´s unusual that all provinces should join the re-emerging faction, but I think it´s not completely impossible. And there are not that many provinces in Spain, so it might look much but isn´t, really.

[Grey_Fox]

When there is a rebellion in conquered lands (it does not need to even be recent) there is always a chance that they will return to the former owners.

Just one of the cases where it sux 2 b u.

[Oshidashi]

The fact that Nuggetthegreat started conquering on a large scale so late in the game must have been an important factor.

The lands he conquered must have gained loyalty as they were in their owner's posession for such a long time.

So the answer to why this has happened actually lies in the excentric strategy of Nuggetthegreat (e.g. not conquering provinces which are so ready to be Spanishised)

Sadly, I've also seen my games end with major uprisings of all kind throughout my territory. I guess hunger for revenge has made me start playing MTW GE again after having quite some (glorious) time spend in the classical world of Rome and Greece.

This time I'm going expert so I thought reading @ the Org would help
This is still a great site thx to all of your intriguing comments.

[naut]

This was dug up from the dead.