Political Views

**King of Atlantis** · 07-05-2005, 10:19

Im the only democrat.

Looks like the majority party at the org is gahs!

**Radier** · 07-05-2005, 10:26

I´m a democrat and loves democrazy

Just not an ´american´ democrat.

**t1master** · 07-05-2005, 15:16

gah!

i knew ichi and gawain where jack booted thugs... :OP

**King of Atlantis** · 07-07-2005, 08:49

Man so many Libertarians!

**Al Khalifah** · 07-07-2005, 09:22

Well I guess I'll go Republican then.

**doc_bean** · 07-07-2005, 11:14

I'm sort of a socialist libertarian liberal.

I believe healthcare and education should be available (and if possible, free of charge, otherwise it should be affordable for everyone) to everyone, rich and poor. I don't believe in taking from the rich and giving to the poor, I'd rather see the government giving everyone the same benefits, the rich can be taxed more than the poor, but it should be reasonable. This makes me a socialist in US terms i guess, but I'm more a libertarian in Europe, because our governments are much larger and take on much more than in the US, too much imho.

I'm a liberal because I just don't care what people do in private as long as it doesn't hurt (non-consenting) other people.

**ShadesWolf** · 07-07-2005, 18:48

Im in the UK
Im right of centre

So I would imagine that makes me a Republican

**JAG** · 07-07-2005, 23:53

Originally Posted by doc_bean

I'm sort of a socialist libertarian liberal.

I believe healthcare and education should be available (and if possible, free of charge, otherwise it should be affordable for everyone) to everyone, rich and poor. I don't believe in taking from the rich and giving to the poor, I'd rather see the government giving everyone the same benefits, the rich can be taxed more than the poor, but it should be reasonable. This makes me a socialist in US terms i guess, but I'm more a libertarian in Europe, because our governments are much larger and take on much more than in the US, too much imho.

I'm a liberal because I just don't care what people do in private as long as it doesn't hurt (non-consenting) other people.

I think your analysis of where you are is brilliant. You are prety much the standard 'liberal' over here, definately in the UK anyway. Our Liberal Democrats are pretty much exactly what you state - for social fairness, but social fairness which creates a situation equal for everyone, rather than trying to actively do more for those nearer the bottom than at the middle. And also for a strong capitalist system.

I disagree fundamentally with some of the views expressed by them, but you have to respect European liberals, they talk sense most of the time.

And Shadeswolf is most definately a Republican.

**Red Harvest** · 07-18-2005, 16:47

Originally Posted by doc_bean

I'm sort of a socialist libertarian liberal.

I believe healthcare and education should be available (and if possible, free of charge, otherwise it should be affordable for everyone) to everyone, rich and poor. I don't believe in taking from the rich and giving to the poor, I'd rather see the government giving everyone the same benefits, the rich can be taxed more than the poor, but it should be reasonable. This makes me a socialist in US terms i guess, but I'm more a libertarian in Europe, because our governments are much larger and take on much more than in the US, too much imho.

I'm a liberal because I just don't care what people do in private as long as it doesn't hurt (non-consenting) other people.

That's fairly close to my own views. I'll add in that I'm in favor of well regulated, but open markets to keep competition strong and to encourage the wise use of capital (rather than bubble building.) I'm anti-protectionist, free market with respect to trade--except of course when facing closed markets in other nations...

I'm also, tough on crime particularly white collar (because of their impact) and violent offenders, and definitely want drugs kept free of the workplace, but I think the way drugs and drug addiction are handled in the US is largely ineffective--some legalization, and a different approach to addiction and the supply chain could eliminate most of the drug crime.

Military matters: kick the snot out of aggressors as soon as they clearly cross the line. Unless they fully correct the problem, they must be removed from power. When engaged, hit hard, don't agonize over every unintended death.

Gun/self defense issues: I have a right to defend myself as I see fit.