!!BAD!! the assault weapon ban may come back!!

[scooter_the_shooter]

I urge any pro gun american to oppose this ban. And join the nra they have been useful in keeping our gun rights around before and maybe they will now.


here is the link http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...litics/3240554


And here is why that ban is useless.


http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FAQs/De...spx?Section=18

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FAQs/De...spx?Section=68



"An armed society is a polite society"


And while there is a gun thread go ahead and deabte whether citizens should own them.

ps another thing look how useful gun are against criminals Check each state there are too many to read


pps look at the rest of these if you have time http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FAQs/De...aspx?Section=1

[Radier]

I quote the american farmer: "If you do not have a gun, you´r not a real american!"

I wish weapons were legal here in Sweden too...

[Don Corleone]

I quote the american farmer: "If you do not have a gun, you´r not a real american!"

I wish weapons were legal here in Sweden too...

I don't know that I agree with the American farmer, but let's issue Don Corleone's corrolary on the subject:

"If you don't own a gun, you're only an American that has rights until somebody with a gun says you don't".

[Crazed Rabbit]

Democracy is two wolfs and a lamb voting on dinner; liberty is an armed lamb contesting the decision.

I wouldn't worry to much about this idiotic bill coming back, but its always good to be vigilant. Feinstein just can't stand facts I guess.

Crazed Rabbit

[The_Doctor]

Why do you need an assault rifle?

Why do you need any guns to protect your rights? If the US government wanted to take away your rights a handful of guys with guns will not do anything against all the tanks, planes, artillery, missiles, and nukes (ok, that is a bit extreme) the US government has.

[Don Corleone]

Because I'd rather go down fighting than live like a slave.

[BDC]

It's scary you want people to have guns.

The thought of some people round here getting guns is just worrying enough, let alone if they could legally get assualt ones. Every Saturday night would ring with the sound of the army being brought in to crush an armed fight.

[PanzerJaeger]

Why do you need an assault rifle?

Why do you need free speech? You wont die without it..

If we start judging rights by necessity, then really all the rights we need are those of having food, clothing, and shelter.

[Ronin]

Because I'd rather go down fighting than live like a slave.

and down you would go....and really fast too...

if the US government went mad(i mean more than it is now) and decided to institute some form of dictatorship i don´t care if you have an arsenal at your home...you´re loosing.

[Albino Gorilla]

Because I'd rather go down fighting than live like a slave.

You can do that with out a gun. Would Probably be more simple too.

[|OCS|Virus]

Why do you need an assault rifle?

Why do you need any guns to protect your rights? If the US government wanted to take away your rights a handful of guys with guns will not do anything against all the tanks, planes, artillery, missiles, and nukes (ok, that is a bit extreme) the US government has.

you talk about the government as if it is a thing, WE ARE the government. People rule themselfs out here, if it gets put to a vote, it will be fair, any full grown adult could vote on it. If it gets put to a vote and my side looses {I like guns so you know my side} I would not contest the results formaly, but you can be im going to say something along the lines of "I outta kill those bastards" then after turning in my guns, I would promptly strike the wall or lamp closest to me.

[scooter_the_shooter]

I don't get why any one wants to ban them criminals will always find somthing.


Lets look at the UK for example.... pretty much all guns are banned and the legal ones cant be kept at home.

well now there is a movement to ban certain knives.










BBC: Knives too pointy!
Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

"The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

"An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."
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what next base ball bats then after that maybe they can declaw the children. And after that string because you might use it to strangel some one


And now if their government gets oppresives what are they gonna do no chance of a good revouloution without outside help.

[scooter_the_shooter]

(sorry for double post)

Say you are crippled/old/weak what ever what can you do if a group of "ganstas" mugs you or something with out an edge.... You think outlaws will pay attention to a sign that says no weopons


And dont you antis use columbine to make your point those 2 broke enough laws to be in jail before that even happened.


They built pipe bombs and one of the guns was home made there are more i will find em' soon.

[Ronin]

(sorry for double post)

Say you are crippled/old/weak what ever what can you do if a group of "ganstas" mugs you or something with out an edge.... You think outlaws will pay attention to a sign that says no weopons

no......


a police force cracking down on ilegal arms is suposed to MAKE them pay attention...

[Radier]

I don't know that I agree with the American farmer, but let's issue Don Corleone's corrolary on the subject:

"If you don't own a gun, you're only an American that has rights until somebody with a gun says you don't".

That sounds wiser...

[scooter_the_shooter]

For those of you who are pro gun do you think there are limits to what you should be allowed to own.


And for the anti gun members are there any circumstances you should be allowed to have one.

I think any thing short of a nuke/chemical/biological weopon is fine.

So if you want full auto rpk m4s ak47 and the great glock 18 go ahead. You can own these BUT you need a class 3 license (near impossible to get) and about 15-30 THOUSAND dollar.

If you want a tank go ahead

[Beirut]

For those of you who are pro gun do you think there are limits to what you should be allowed to own.

Absolutely. The problem is that the guns I would (perhaps) ban, would be banned just as much for emotional reasons as for technical reasons. Which blows my argument out of the water, yet I still feel the way I do. Go figure.

The basic argument boils down to whether a person can reason that a gun that can kill twenty people a minute is really so much worse than a gun that can kill ten people a minute, that it should be banned while the other is not. We'll use a Lee-Enfield built in 1914 with an 11 shot capacity vs. an AK-series rifle built yesterday with a thirty round capacity as examples.

Is one really so much worse than the other. Yes. And no. The argument has just as much to do with phychology as with mechanics.

[King of Atlantis]

The right to bear arms is very important as all fascist regimes get rid of fire arms first thing so they can control the populace.

But, i dont see why we need assualt weapons. What can one do with an assualt weapon other than kill many people?

[scooter_the_shooter]

the ak47 is used by many countries army but this same gun will be found on MANY farms across the country it is rugged reliable has cheap ammo and holds alot of it. because of this many people buy the ak47 and other military guns like the sks and m1 garand (used one from the army are CHEAP and good ).


the same goes for almost any military gun that is why people buy them.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

Assault rifles are great fun for target shooting.
I also believe that they would scare the crap out of anyone who breaks into your house (actually, I know that any gun does that but isn't part of the old assault weapons ban a ban on guns that "look scary"?).

AK-47s, M1 Garands : I LOVE them.

[Don Corleone]

As a member of the NRA, and a strong advocate of second ammendment rights, may I suggest it would probably give your arguments more meaning if you found more impartial sources than the NRA? They are an issue advocacy group and regardless of how right I think they are on a issue, I would be the last one to call them impartial.

That being said, you forgot the words 'so called assault weapon ban'. The wording of the so-called assault weapon ban could easily be used to outlaw any weapon capable of firing more than one round per loading (i.e., anything but a black powder rifle).

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

The wording of the so-called assault weapon ban could easily be used to outlaw any weapon capable of firing more than one round per loading (i.e., anything but a black powder rifle).

Don't forget the good old muskets and arquebuses.