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InsaneApache 21:12 07-05-2005
It had to happen sooner or later....the thought Police are recruiting...

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive...aney021605.htm

OK, make the scumbags pay....but why the law abiders ...a new crime of having the wrong mix of chromosomes....

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ICantSpellDawg 21:22 07-05-2005
fantastic
i love these things

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PanzerJaeger 21:35 07-05-2005
Poor Raider, living in a socialist paradise.

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InsaneApache 21:38 07-05-2005
oh dear God it's got a crazy frog addy on as well ....jeez it's the end of the world as we know it ......

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GoreBag 21:45 07-05-2005
Wait, is this article a joke?

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InsaneApache 21:49 07-05-2005
Not as far as I'm aware it's not...thats a no.

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GoreBag 21:53 07-05-2005
Then it's funny how reading about a bill designed to make all men pay for battering women incites me to violence. If I'm going to be taxed for it, I'd might as well beat my share of women, right?

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Kanamori 22:06 07-05-2005
wait, wait, before i go back to work, this is sig worthy material.

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Radier 22:16 07-05-2005
This can only happen in Sweden... I would never touch a woman so why shall I be forced to pay?

Gudrun Schyman is a stupid **** who don´t know a shit. All men shall pay taxes just because of some beat their wifes? Well, shall only the immigrants in Sweden pay for crimes commited by other immigrants? Those left-winged wannabecommies allways want to force taxes on ordinary people.

BTW did you know the Swedish government cooporate with The Left-party whose leader describes himself as a communist and a leninist?

Oh what happened to my once proud conrty?

If changes are not made, I will move out of this red and anti-democratic hell...

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Don Corleone 22:27 07-05-2005
The shocking thing isn't that some radical feminist proposed this. They say things like that all the time here in America.

When I was in college, I got tired of hearing about date-rape and stranger rapes (and yes, it happens a lot, more than you'd realize) and I decided to do something about it, I joined the Rape Crisis Center and did educational seminars in dorms (as well as some . In order to do this, you had to take a class that semester. One of the girls in this class said that if testoserone is what causes all this violence, and we have the ability to mature sperm in clinical environments, why don't we castrate males at birth?

The shocking thing is that knowing what I know of Sweden, it'll probably pass.

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Ironside 08:00 07-06-2005
First, it haven't passed (no way in hell that it would either. Unlike the US, the real radicals here don't decide the politics ). Check out the date BTW, old news.

Second, the radical feminist-movement got quite fried by a program were it was clearly showed that thier views on men was about the same as the person Don Carleone mentioned.

Third, would it have passed, then a later law (started first July) would force them to either drop the tax or start taxing the females too.

Fourth, Radier when was Sweden proud in your eyes?
During the last time we had a borgelig goverment, our economy sucked badly. The time before that was Torbjörn Fälldin 1982. You older than 33?
If the rapture inside the left-party would lead to a new party that skips the commie guard, I would actually find it worth considering voting for, so it can work out quite well.

Finishing of with a good Reinfeldt quote. "Once again is it the communists that decide the Swedish defence." Great comment! And that means? Strong or weak defence?

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bmolsson 12:56 07-06-2005
This is what you get when you allow womens to vote.....

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Radier 13:31 07-06-2005
Originally Posted by Ironside:
First, it haven't passed (no way in hell that it would either. Unlike the US, the real radicals here don't decide the politics ). Check out the date BTW, old news.

Second, the radical feminist-movement got quite fried by a program were it was clearly showed that thier views on men was about the same as the person Don Carleone mentioned.

Third, would it have passed, then a later law (started first July) would force them to either drop the tax or start taxing the females too.

Fourth, Radier when was Sweden proud in your eyes?
During the last time we had a borgelig goverment, our economy sucked badly. The time before that was Torbjörn Fälldin 1982. You older than 33?
If the rapture inside the left-party would lead to a new party that skips the commie guard, I would actually find it worth considering voting for, so it can work out quite well.

Finishing of with a good Reinfeldt quote. "Once again is it the communists that decide the Swedish defence." Great comment! And that means? Strong or weak defence?
Sweden was proud until the left took the power. It was not Bildts fault the economy was bad. It was the general economic situation in Europe/USA that effected Sweden.

About Reinfeldts comment: Leni(n) Björklunds decisions means that guys like me (I´m 17) will be sent out in the army with bad equipment and will easily become overrunned if someone invades Sweden.

Isn´t the Social democrats an option for you if you search for a more rightwinged party than the left? I will vote on the Swedish democrats, and no I´m not a rascist.

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bmolsson 13:50 07-06-2005
Originally Posted by Radier:
About Reinfeldts comment: Leni(n) Björklunds decisions means that guys like me (I´m 17) will be sent out in the army with bad equipment and will easily become overrunned if someone invades Sweden.
Just that nobody have any reason to invade Sweden any more. Give one reason why any country would do that.......

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Radier 13:58 07-06-2005
Originally Posted by bmolsson:
Just that nobody have any reason to invade Sweden any more. Give one reason why any country would do that.......
Well there is no reason now, but we do not know how the world looks like in twenty years. What if Russia, England, France or Germany elects ultra-right winged fascists or fanatical communists? All that is needed is a bad economy like in Germany 1930.

Recently russian maps from the Sovjet era were discovered and they showed how the russians would invade Sweden, what cities that would be conquered first and so on...

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Steppe Merc 19:20 07-06-2005
Originally Posted by PanzerJager:
Poor Raider, living in a socialist paradise.
Hey, I never heard about socialists being anti men...

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GoreBag 21:45 07-06-2005
Originally Posted by Radier:
Well there is no reason now, but we do not know how the world looks like in twenty years. What if Russia, England, France or Germany elects ultra-right winged fascists or fanatical communists? All that is needed is a bad economy like in Germany 1930.
Wouldn't Sweden change its policies if there was a threat? No one wants to attack Sweden now, so cross the bridge when you come to it.

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Ironside 22:46 07-06-2005
Originally Posted by Radier:
Sweden was proud until the left took the power. It was not Bildts fault the economy was bad. It was the general economic situation in Europe/USA that effected Sweden.
Well Sweden has been a sea of left for the last 70 years with some small islands of borgelig governing from time to time... And the bad economy wasn't his fault, but the failure to compensate for it was.

Originally Posted by Radier:
About Reinfeldts comment: Leni(n) Björklunds decisions means that guys like me (I´m 17) will be sent out in the army with bad equipment and will easily become overrunned if someone invades Sweden.
Aahh, but you missed the whole point. How has the commies armies looked like? SU: second (first?) best army in the world, North Korea: The most excessive budget in the world, North Vietnam: Big army 1975, China largest army in the world. I mean an evil commie is exellent for defense. So either isn't the Swedish commies the same as the other commies, or keeping fjälljägarna in Arjeplog was a good move for the defense (Reinfeld's comment was on Ohly's decision to support that it stayed in Arjeplog). And I'm quite certain it wasn't Reinfeld's intent to state that.

On Swedish defence I'm content with keeping a rapid build-up capacity as I'm aware that no serious (as in predicted to have any major influence) party will maintain a big defence when it isn't currently unneccecery. Too big red numbers in the budget.
Originally Posted by Radier:
Isn´t the Social democrats an option for you if you search for a more rightwinged party than the left? I will vote on the Swedish democrats, and no I´m not a rascist.
Don't like Persson, too right-wing for my taste and not good enough leader to compansate for it. So I'm interested who will be the next party leader.

Quite right then... Would you define yourself as libertarian (as little goverment influence as possible (except military), our liberals , or atleast thier original viewpoint) or more as a fascist (strong state, nationalistic, opposing the "weak" socialistic views, etc. Skip the rascism)? We got selfclaimed people of both types here, in case you missed it. Sverigedemokraterna feels like the second though.

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Radier 23:16 07-06-2005
Well all the commiestates I know of, are not or were not democrats. I don´t think the Left-party are anti-democrats but they are indeed not just. The idea of actually run a country with forced solidarity is just wrong. What happened to the induvidial and his will?
No, I don´t like when the state have a law that says: Give the poor guys some of your money or you will go to prison" The free will and free solidarity is gone with the wind... That is one of the reason I´m not left.


I define myself as a libertanian, but the military must be strong. I´m not a fascist, but a nationalist. It is indeed sad that many people think I am a rascist just because I will vote on (sd). :( Heck, I have friends from middle-east! Anyway I think all the criminal immigrants immediatly shall be thrown out of Sweden. But no politician dares even to discuss the immigrant-problem and their overrepresentation in criminality.

I hope Mona Sahlin becomes the new leader of (S) because then they won´t get many votes The best leader I can think of is Margot Wallström.

According to the military I hope that EU stick together and we gets an european army including swedes insteed of a swedish army alone.

BTW don´t you think the right will win if the Left-party splits? I really hope it does.

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Sjakihata 00:40 07-07-2005
Originally Posted by Radier:
Oh what happened to my once proud conrty? :
You mean way back when you fought denmark? When Vasa was just launched...


Ironside, actually it is quite hard to find an exact translation for the scandinavian word, borgerlig.

It can be explained in long phrases, but no single word covers it. My dictionary says "non-socialist parties" but that is not really accurate, too broad.

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Azi Tohak 05:22 07-07-2005
I don't know about you guys, but I get all tingly when people tell me I am responsable for the actions of others.

Ah bull****. A scum bag is and will continue to be a scum bag, so why not make them slave labor and have them work off the debts to those they abuse. However, in the USA anyway, I am sure some of our lovely scum-sucking lawyers will find a way to make any man a slave to pay off some dumb b**** he was stuipd enough to touch.

I just want to know why people think this crap is a good idea. And the castration too. Now THAT would be a hell of a plan. Where's my assault weapon when I need it...I'm sure it is around here somewhere....

Azi

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bmolsson 06:44 07-07-2005
Originally Posted by Azi Tohak:
I don't know about you guys, but I get all tingly when people tell me I am responsable for the actions of others.

Ah bull****. A scum bag is and will continue to be a scum bag, so why not make them slave labor and have them work off the debts to those they abuse. However, in the USA anyway, I am sure some of our lovely scum-sucking lawyers will find a way to make any man a slave to pay off some dumb b**** he was stuipd enough to touch.

I just want to know why people think this crap is a good idea. And the castration too. Now THAT would be a hell of a plan. Where's my assault weapon when I need it...I'm sure it is around here somewhere....

Azi
Well, it didn't work in Sovietunion.....

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Papewaio 07:13 07-07-2005
Well guys have a shorter life span so to get the same end totat amount of tax requires more tax per year...

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Ironside 08:25 07-07-2005
Originally Posted by :
Anyway I think all the criminal immigrants immediatly shall be thrown out of Sweden. But no politician dares even to discuss the immigrant-problem and their overrepresentation in criminality.
Did you remember folkpartiets statement on kicking out every immigrant that got convicted to atleast two years in prison? Faktum made a program on this and came to the conclution that the group most affected by this would be... The Finns!
Link

Only to be certain that you're fully aware on what kicking out criminal immigrants means. Out with the Finns, the Norweigians, the Danes first.

On immigrants and crime

I agree that parts of the Swedish integration policy have failed. It's an old problem though.

Originally Posted by :
The best leader I can think of is Margot Wallström.
Margot seems to be a good candidate, yes.

Originally Posted by :
BTW don´t you think the right will win if the Left-party splits? I really hope it does.
I suspect that the right will win anyway, don't think Persson will be able to keep it from happening, he doesn't look like he can keep it up anymore. He should've resigned when he speculated about it, I suspect that comment actually hurted him politically.

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bmolsson 05:03 07-08-2005
For the record, criminal immigrants are being thrown out of Sweden after they served their sentences in most heavy crimes.

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Ironside 07:47 07-08-2005
Originally Posted by bmolsson:
For the record, criminal immigrants are being thrown out of Sweden after they served their sentences in most heavy crimes.
Right, it stood in one of the links (but on Swedish )

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Radier 10:20 07-08-2005
Not to point at certain induviduals, but the worst criminals in Sweden comes from Northern Africa west of Egypt. The second worst are from South America. The third worst are middle-eastern people. The nordic immegrants may commit most crimes jus because there are so many of them, but in crimes/immegrant they are not highest on the list.

Non-europeans are horrible overrepresentated when we look at rapes. Hans Klette (ordförande i brotsjouren och professor i statsrätt) said that 88% of all the grouprapes were comitted by immegrants. Note he does not count the immegrant children. The real number can be higher... And I believe him.

The only crime I have been exposed to was by two guys named Muhammed and Achmed. My father knows two women that allmost got raped by immegrantgangs (arabs). My cousines boyfriend was allmost killed by a gang of Syrians. My cousines friend was raped by immegrants (arabs).... I can list more if you want. Immegrants that commit crimes must be thrown out. Null tolerance! Strange enough... I have never heard anyone who have been exposed ofcrimes comitted by Nordic immegrants. Just a friend who were attacked by finnish zigenes (spelling?).

But this does not matter really much. An immegrant is an immegrant wether his/her homeland is Africa or Europe. They shall respect the laws of their new country and if they don´t they shall be sent home... Danish, finnish, arab etc doesn´t matter. Don´t you think?

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Sigurd 11:54 07-08-2005
Originally Posted by Ironside:
Only to be certain that you're fully aware on what kicking out criminal immigrants means. Out with the Finns, the Norweigians, the Danes first.
Yes, those damn immigrants. They really do top the criminal statistics. And the largest immigrant group in Norway is … the Swedes.
Let’s start an exchange of prisoner program.
One Norwegian for two Swedes.

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Snowhobbit 13:38 07-08-2005
I say two Norwegians for three Swedes

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