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**Meneldil** · 07-07-2005, 19:21

There's indeed a really serious problem with the muslim immigrants in France, and it will cause huge troubles in the futur, but then, I've never heard of a country that doesn't have problem with muslim immigrants sadly.

Even muslim country have problem with muslim immigrants.

And yeah, Chirac is an ass, yet he got elected with 82%

**Louis VI the Fat** · 07-07-2005, 20:32

Originally Posted by Meneldil

There's indeed a really serious problem with the muslim immigrants in France, and it will cause huge troubles in the future

Why, Meneldil is right. Of course there's a problem with muslim immigrants in France. There's nothing inherently racist about stating this obvious truth.

But we need to bear in mind that many non-muslim immigrants are also a source of concern, and that many muslims do very well and are a great contribution to France.

I don't have an issue with muslims that are willing to accept and adopt French values. Nor should anybody else. But, unfortunately, there does seem to be an explosive mixture of poor social-economic prospects, a conflicting value-system and outright hostility towards a western way of life in some muslim circles. There's a jihad brewing in our banlieu's.

Originally Posted by Meneldil

And yeah, Chirac is an ass, yet he got elected with 82%

Well, the choice was between a crook and a fascist, remember?

Oh, the tragedy of it all. We're stuck with this 'approval rate 20%' arse for years because the socialists didn't have the same discipline to get out and vote for their main candidate that those bloody narrow-minded southern fascist peasants had.

**BDC** · 07-07-2005, 20:45

French people hate Chirac because he's a liar and an idiot, and he only got voted in because they did the typical French thing and ended up choosing between him and a facist.

**william the bastard** · 07-07-2005, 21:44

[But we need to bear in mind that many non-muslim immigrants are also a source of concern, and that many muslims do very well and are a great contribution to France.

True, my family came from Italy and Friends from Poland and other from Morroco and Algeria despite uor common bloody history

**william the bastard** · 07-07-2005, 21:39

Originally Posted by Meneldil

There's indeed a really serious problem with the muslim immigrants in France, and it will cause huge troubles in the futur, but then, I've never heard of a country that doesn't have problem with muslim immigrants sadly.

And yeah, Chirac is an ass, yet he got elected with 82%

IMO, problem is less immigrant than ghettos. they are parked in "banlieues" without work without authorities, well they are in a bantoustan. France have create a subcitizen. And it is true that will cause huge probs in the future 'cause France is unable to give theim hope no more than the rest of population.
Sorry, but I think we need to change, or just waiting collapse.
just my advice

**william the bastard** · 07-07-2005, 21:54

[QUOTE=Meneldil]There's indeed a really serious problem with the muslim immigrants in France, and it will cause huge troubles in the futur, but then, I've never heard of a country that doesn't have problem with muslim immigrants sadly.

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