Why should I hate Abraham Lincoln?

[Steppe Merc]

I disagree. Not allowing people to have a fair trial is always wrong. War should not change people's laws, otherwise there is no point of fighting war, if not to preserve one's way of life.
I forgot to metion the whole Habeus Corpus things in why I dislike him, thanks Gawain!

[King of Atlantis]

I dont get why we even have the bill of rights when the government can take away those rights when ever they want. Lincoln did it, bush is doing it, and probably alot of others have done it to.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Lincoln did it, bush is doing it, and probably alot of others have done it to.

You left out one og the biggest culprits FDR. Bush hasnt done any of this. The Patriot act was passed by congress.

[King of Atlantis]

Bush may have not made the patriot act, but he didnt veto it and he is a big supporter of it, so you cant say he isnt apart of it.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Bush may have not made the patriot act, but he didnt veto it and he is a big supporter of it, so you cant say he isnt apart of it.

I never demied any of that but he didnt write it or pass it . He only signed it and seeing as how it passed congres ond even SCOTUS hasnt found it unconstitutional I dont see where your coming from. Linclon just did it on his own.

[King of Atlantis]

you said bush didnt do any of this and he did. By signing a Bill he legitamized it. Sure he did it the legal way i never said he didnt.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

you said bush didnt do any of this and he did. By signing a Bill he legitamized it. Sure he did it the legal way i never said he didnt.

You said

I dont get why we even have the bill of rights when the government can take away those rights when ever they want.

Bush didnt take any rights away from us congress did. He didnt act like a dictator which is my gripe against Linclon.In fact SCOTUS found that his actions were unconstitutional.