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Is Mary the mother just the womb. While Jesus was placed there wholly of God.
The Son, The Ghost and The Spirit are one.
Wouldn't this make Jesus a clone of God?
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Is Mary the mother just the womb. While Jesus was placed there wholly of God.
The Son, The Ghost and The Spirit are one.
Wouldn't this make Jesus a clone of God?
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Ever played Xenogears?
Sorry, that was the first thing that popped into my head.
Anyway, back on topic, I'd say...no. While the three are one, they are also three. Each part of the trinity has its own role and is a separate manifestation of God.
At least that is my understanding. But man, you sure do see some fun stuff in our forums![]()
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I'm just trying to be fashionable with the latest trend of threads which are contrasting God and Technology/Science.
I wonder does this mix make me a Fundamentalist Nerd?
Not at all. Just normally nuts......Originally Posted by Papewaio
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I guess it goes by interpretation if Mary was the mother of Jesus, I know Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Lutherans all believe that Mary was the legitimate mother of Jesus, but Anglicans, Methodists, and every other protestant off shoot believes the opposite, she was just a womb (however morbid that sounds). I believe in a mythical sense Jesus was both man and god, much like Heracles, he was certainly mortal and throughout his life he had a difficult time coming to terms with his power (thats why in the Bible he goes from being age 10 to age 30 and it skips the middle years). I think a more correct term would be to associate Jesus and Holy Ghost, Jesus is a mortal Man, the Holy Ghost is Jesus and therefore god in spirit.
The Trinity....
It's not a whole thing, but 3 separate spiritualities....
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Swords Made of Letters - 1938. The war is looming in France - and Alexandre Reythier does not have much time left to protect his country. A novel set before the war.
A Painted Shield of Honour - 1313. Templar Knights in France are in grave danger. Can they be saved?
That's always being a mystery to me. Why were the middle years skipped and for many our formative years.Originally Posted by Wazikashi
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Papewaio,Originally Posted by Papewaio
be careful! The trinity is very dizzying. Most heretics were burned because they jumbled this![]()
Trinity seems to be an old concept. There was also the main celtic good that appear in three different configurations. Same with the Christian god. Sometime you see him as god father, sometime as the son, sometimes as the holy ghost. But it is always the same god. (Well most of the time you do not see him/her at all)
The problem that I see is that no one really knows what a god is. Does anybody have a proper definition? One that even I will understand?
Didn't the Byzantines (among many others, I'm sure) wage some nasty revolts/civil wars about this?
You mean like the wiping out of the Arians (followers of Arius teachings) who belived:Originally Posted by Proletariat
From wikithat the Logos (Jesus) and the Father were not of the same essence;
that the Son was a created being; and
that though He was the creator of the worlds, and must therefore have existed before them and before all time, there was a "time" [although Arius refused to use words meaning time, such as cronos or aion] when He did not exist.
Or the struggle with the monophysists in Egypt, that belived that Jesus was only divine, not human+divine. Seen speculations that the reason behind this was that Maria=Isis (the Gud-birther). And all those wierd concepts about Jesus' nature created when attempting to create something that all sides accepted.
So yes, the Byz had some (quite big) problems about this.
We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?
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from the way i always understood the concept - God is like the contents of a large wine barrel
when you take a mug and fill it with the wine - the shell is different, but it is no less the wine
different forms of cups do not change the contents (not taking into consideration sediments from cups and what not) and they do not make the contents any less of the original make-up
either way - it is illogical and i dont buy it - but that is the explanation i have adopted
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TuffStuff,
it is like this: You have a good wine. It has a certain colour, smell and taste. So it is one single wine but you recognize it in three different ways.
Pape, you?! Never!Originally Posted by Papewaio
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
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no Jesus is not a clone of God
Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all 3 distinct personalities of God
they are all God. yet distinct personalities of God
each of them is every bit as much "God" as all the others, even though they are not exactly the same
i know it's complicated, and unfortunately i am not the best at explaining this concept but hopefully that answers the question to some degree
Would that make them all stem cells?
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God has multiple personalities...Originally Posted by Navaros
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