Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Diesel cars

  1. #1
    Humanist Senior Member Franconicus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Trying to get to Utopia
    Posts
    3,482

    Default Diesel cars

    In Europe diesel engines have reached a 50% share of all new passenger cars. They have better fuel economy and better performance. In the US they still do not play an important role. Why do the Amercans not drive diesel cars?

  2. #2
    Don't worry, I don't exist Member King of Atlantis's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Ruins of Atlantis a.k.a Florida
    Posts
    1,658

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    Dont konw. We do use it for trucks though.

  3. #3
    Lord of the House Flies Member Al Khalifah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    The Golden Caliphate
    Posts
    1,644

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    better performance
    If you want all the power to come at once. I would not take a diesel on a track-day unless it was a very good diesel.
    Cowardice is to run from the fear;
    Bravery is not to never feel the fear.
    Bravery is to be terrified as hell;
    But to hold the line anyway.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Senior Member English assassin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    London, innit
    Posts
    3,734

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    Petrol engines do have a better power curve. OT AFAIK there is only one diesel engined motorbike and I imagine that is why.

    While we are musing about diesels, when I had to get a new car about a year ago I looked at the hybrid drive things. To my surprise they seem to have no better emission profile than a diesel. Or, put another way, a diesel was as good as a hybrid drive. So that, and the extra cost, was an end of that idea.

    Can anyone shed any light on this and why hybrids are any good?
    "The only thing I've gotten out of this thread is that Navaros is claiming that Satan gave Man meat. Awesome." Gorebag

  5. #5
    Lord of the House Flies Member Al Khalifah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    The Golden Caliphate
    Posts
    1,644

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    Do you mean the hybrids that can use LPG in addition to standard fuel?
    Cowardice is to run from the fear;
    Bravery is not to never feel the fear.
    Bravery is to be terrified as hell;
    But to hold the line anyway.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Senior Member English assassin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    London, innit
    Posts
    3,734

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    Do you mean the hybrids that can use LPG in addition to standard fuel?
    No, the pertol electric ones like the toyota Prius. LPG isn't worth it because I heard the gov are goign to start whacking the tax on LPG up.
    "The only thing I've gotten out of this thread is that Navaros is claiming that Satan gave Man meat. Awesome." Gorebag

  7. #7
    Humanist Senior Member Franconicus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Trying to get to Utopia
    Posts
    3,482

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
    Petrol engines do have a better power curve. OT AFAIK there is only one diesel engined motorbike and I imagine that is why. ?
    Gasolines have more power but diesel has much more torque. So they would fit perfectly to SUVs. They are heavier than gasolines. That is the reason you do not use them in cycles or planes usually.
    Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
    While we are musing about diesels, when I had to get a new car about a year ago I looked at the hybrid drive things. To my surprise they seem to have no better emission profile than a diesel. Or, put another way, a diesel was as good as a hybrid drive. So that, and the extra cost, was an end of that idea.
    Can anyone shed any light on this and why hybrids are any good?
    Hybrids are very best if you run them in stop-and-go. Diesel are the better long distance runner. That is why Japanese like the Hybrids and the Europeans like the diesels. America should be in between. Hybrids for L.A., diesel for Idaho.

  8. #8
    Tree Killer Senior Member Beirut's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Quebec, Canada
    Posts
    8,168

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    Doesn't diesel polute more than gas?

    God knows it stinks more.
    Unto each good man a good dog

  9. #9
    Senior Member Senior Member English assassin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    London, innit
    Posts
    3,734

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    Gasolines have more power but diesel has much more torque. So they would fit perfectly to SUVs. They are heavier than gasolines. That is the reason you do not use them in cycles or planes usually
    So they have no top end power, a bit of torque, and they weigh a ton?

    Sounds ideal for Harley Davidson.....
    "The only thing I've gotten out of this thread is that Navaros is claiming that Satan gave Man meat. Awesome." Gorebag

  10. #10
    Humanist Senior Member Franconicus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Trying to get to Utopia
    Posts
    3,482

    Default Re: Diesel cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut
    Doesn't diesel polute more than gas?

    God knows it stinks more.
    Depends on the aftertreatment. Gasolines use threeway converters. Diesel can have oxidation catalysts, diesel particulate filters and NOx aftertreatment. Then you can reach Lev2bin5 (=almost no emissions!)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO