Egypt is not fighting the west, so they are a target.
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Egypt is not fighting the west, so they are a target.
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Egypt's goverment is considered to be corrupt and pro western so has to be fought.
edit: Ayman al-Zawahri was part of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad group who's goal was to overthrow the Egyptian government.
CBR
Last edited by CBR; 07-07-2005 at 14:57.
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NPR was saying it was because Egypt was one step away from recognizing the Iraqi government. This murder was a warning to the Arab world that any governments that recognize Iraq's government can expect much of the same.
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Who the hell are these people fighting for if even Arabic blood isn't sacred?
It's complete madness.
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This has nothing to do with blood or life. It's about power. As long as there's places in the world that aren't under Islamic fundamentalist rule, these jokers will be running around doing these things.
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
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Extremists hate their own countrymen if they work for the 'enemy'. They hate them even more than the enemy.
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I agree.Originally Posted by Franconicus
Extremists hate their own countrymen if they work for the 'enemy'. They hate them even more than the enemy.
I can still remember in Northern Ireland when one religious group attacked another's religious group's children who just trying to get to school. And they were still their own countrymen.
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What they're doing makes perfect sense. They want the Iraqi government to fall, they want it destabilized and isolated. So to do that you chase the diplomats out the government collapses and the extremist Mullahs, self righteous monkeys that they are, move in seize power, and stone people for adultery.
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Sometimes I crash in the weeds
One day a bowl full of cherries
One night I'm suckin' on lemons and spittin' out the seeds
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They are extremists that want an Islamic state. And that means killing other Arabs as they just see them as being corrupted and therefore legitimate targets.
CBR
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They are fighting for their own extremist cause, as stated many times by people here at the org, it is not the same as what all the muslim people in the Middle East want, probably not even a majority of what people in the Middle East want. Which is why you should not go around threatening invasion and death for country regimes to 'stop the spread' because it causes more problems.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
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How many Iraqis (Arabs) have been killed by Al Qaeda and related insurgents? Far more than the number of non-Arabs killed, I suspect. The "war on terror" is not really about New York, Madrid or London. Al Qaeda's goals are primarily confined to the Islamic world: they want to establish extreme Islamic governments in Algeria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia etc. The West is just being targeted because it supports the existing regimes in those countries. If that support collapses, there's a chance of Iran 1979 type takeovers. The fact that Al Qaeda and fundamentalist Shiite Iran are opposed to each other only underlines the internecine nature of AQs agenda.
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Actually there goal is to restore the Caliphate of early Islam. Plus all the areas that are Islamic now.
This is the the caliphate. Add to that the caucasian region of Russia, Pakistan, Sicily, the Balkan states and Turkey, and the centeral Asian stan nations.
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You don't really believe they'll stop there, do you?
They want the world under Sharia, with them as the mullahs hearing each case. Nothing less will satisfy them.
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
Strike for the South
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Where have they stated they want to take over the world? I never have heard that, quite the opposite. They have stated that if states act like Sweden and don't interfere in the Middle East, then they will not interfere with the west. That clearly isn't acceptable but still it is wrong to state 'they want to take over the world'.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
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I'm aware, I was asking out of exasperation.
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Are most Iraqis and Iranis Arabic? I know it's nitpicking, but I had always assumed that while some had Arabic blood, there was still a lot of Iranian and Turkish blood...
Just wondering, doesn't really have anything to do with the topic.
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If you should stand then who's to guide you?
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CIA world factbook:
Iran:Persian 51%, Azeri 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%, Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%
Iraq:Arab 75%-80%, Kurdish 15%-20%, Turkoman, Assyrian or other 5%
CBR
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Well as far as I know they fight for true muslims
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