hmmm

that is not what i intended in my arguement
this applys to anyone who believes in an superlative right and wrong

anyone who believes in a plan at all believes that they have a codified judgement sheet based on something either written or passed down

not necessarily the fear of judgement, but the adherence to what is "true" is the cause for many to do good

if that is the way it SHOULD be - then that is what i SHALL do - not for fear of punishment but for propriety's sake because of true belief

this goes for anyone who BELIEVES in truth - christian, muslim, blah blah blah

not me - but what i am saying is that if it is up to the individual to decide what is right and wrong - even in collective groups - it isnt really right or wrong - only accepted

and it will be different for every other group and may infringe on individual liberties or worse - kind of like religion

all i am saying is that it is more difficult than the cut and dry easy answer that many of us proscribe in out infinite wisdom