Game of democracy (multiplayer campaign).

[Patron]

In terms of our government structure, our government isn't large enough to need a structure, we are just an oligarchy.


I agree with Anti-social munky. Though not with his imperialistic plan completely. While we should set our sights high, I think you missed out some opporunities in the north and west aswell. If we can conquer our way across North Africa, we'd probably be better off invading hungary and dominating the mediteranean aswell.

I think we should conquer the following provinces, then achieve the following objectives.


First we need to deal with the Turks, it is too hard to conquer greece, it is better to waste our resources on easier provinces and then on the Turks before botherring with that place. We should bribe Trebizond first, then Nicaea with the same emmisary. To take Bulgaria we should begin training an emmisary this turn and send him in to bribe the Bulgars next turn. We need to deal with the Turks first as if my plan works. We can seal off 15 provinces and only have to split our armies to defend 5 provinces from invasion.


We need to take and fortify Anatolia and Trebizond first and as quickly as possible, before the turks get to them. If they do manage to get to them before us, we need to do a proper invasion and wate our resources taking them, otherwise we risk an attack on our heartlands.

We must then wage war on the turks and wipe them out and then quickly occupy and pacify their territories so they cannot return.

The last hard bit is to take over any remaining rebel provinces in

Rum Armenia, Edessa and Lesser Armenia.

We must then wait a while, training some more troops, before going on to finnish off the plan, by partaking in 3 small campaigns to secure our territory.

We must choose to expend resources in invading: Serbia and Greece; Georgia then Khazar; Syria and Antioch. Each campaign will consist of a well organised blitz into the territory, we have a large array of elite specialist troops, except for spearmen.


If all works well, we should be able to go on to complete all of these logical objectives.

Train loads of orthodox bishops and priests and send them to each province on the continent.

Build a giant continental trading fleet and amass 10000s of florins each turn.
Conquer all the islands in the mediteranean.
Raid anyone we want.

Conquer Egypt and then North Africa.

Conquer the Hoarde. and seal off Russia by taking Lithuania and Kiev.

Conquer Hungary and use the iron there to train +4 Ab (attack bonus) Katapraktoi and just generally conquer the planet.

[antisocialmunky]

Bribery is not a 100% thing with one emissary, too often they reject them and gain a trait level for anti-bribing. You have to use 2 minimium bribing the same stack to have a good chance, 4's usually enough.

I'd still take Iberia though, Spaniards can get messy unless you can get them to turn onto the otehr Cathys and turn Europe Yellow. I'd use Iberia as a staging point for the eventual invasion of France and Europe and Const as a staging point for the invasion of Russia with an eventual pincer move into Europe.

[antisocialmunky]

Updating anytime soon?

[CountMRVHS]

I'm not really interested in joining this particular game, but I had an idea that might make it more interesting for other people.

For the battles, instead of having the host always command, how about this:

Since the host is the Emperor/King, have him fight the battles when the King is involved.

Any time there is a battle with another general, send the information to someone else so they can set up a custom battle and fight it themselves. If you wanted to get really organized, you might divide up the people who are playing along into "Princes" and "Generals"; a "Prince" player fights the battle that a Prince is involved in, and a "General" player fights a battle where non-royalty is involved. They could then take turns amongst themselves fighting the battles.

Of course the Host would have a big part in making these battles exciting for the players, by giving a run-down of the scenario so the players know what they're fighting for. So, if the Host decides to send his son and heir to attack Turkish-held Trebizond, for example, he'd post something in the thread about why this battle is being fought and what he hopes to accomplish. If Byzantium can hold this province, we will gain a land route across Asia Minor and finally unite our far-flung armies. Something like that.

Also, you could include the general's Vices & Virtues to spice it up a bit.

Just a thought. Man, though, writing about it makes me want to try it....

CountMRVHS

[Patron]

No one's reached any decisions. I wasted my time.

:(

[bretwalda]

There werent any decision options put up for vote... or discussion. Also a savegame would come in handy...

I still find it an interesting try (tho I never played demogame in civ3 I did play an awful lot of civ... )

[antisocialmunky]

I got bored and tried my hand at the first late campaign I've played.

I bribed Bulgaria and took Trebizond first turn with my tiny army. I made a 5 star general out of the Kataphrakt in Const. with combos of the titles.

The Turks sent everything they had and sat outside of Anatolia castle sieging out rebels and putting down Christian revolts. I took Rum(barely) and ended the siege of Trezbond and with a bribe of Lesser Armenia. I surround the Turks and the Horde seems quite sedate whilst I plan on taking Greece and kicking the Huns out of Serbia.

The date is 1325 and the Empire is reclaimed.