Why?
You will call me a leftie, but I really try to understand what makes people do things like that. Killing people they do not know, never seen in their lifes, did not do any harm to them ...? I am not talking about the political or religious reasons. I am talking about psycho. Is it hate, fear, anger?
So please avoid comments like 'it is all becauseof US imperialism', or 'muslims are bad', or 'it's because the liberals do not let us kill them'.
Re: Why?
The have become consumed by hate and lies.
Re: Why?
What's so odd about killing people you don't know? Humans do it all the time. Give a man a cause to fight for and he'll commit actions of violence against those who stand in his way. Hey, he's on the right side! It's justified. Besides, they deserved it.
Why do soldiers think it's OK to kill people they've never met? Artillery and airforce don't even see the people they kill in the name of their country. They're on the right side, fighting the enemy.
Why do terrorists think it's OK to kill people they've never met? Same thinking, probably. They're on the right side, fighting the enemy.
If you're fighting fair you've made a miscalculation.
Re: Why?
It is not as simple as that. Artillery and bombers can kill because they do not see the enemy. And if you ever read the stories of allied bomber pilots you see that they had big problems when they saw the burning towns.Originally Posted by Spetulhu
Infantry kills for two reasons. First, they are afraid. Second, they do because their commrades do.
I know that the criminal bomb attack on London is not unique. But I do not understand it.
Re: Why?
Not completely correct - the Infantryman fights in combat for numerous reasons. You might want to try reading the studies on WW2 where the statistics show that only about 10% of the infantrymen fired their weapons. (One of the main reasons why many nations went to automatic and semiautomatic assualt weapons was because of this).
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
Re: Why?
i would do it because of anger and hopelessness
maybe with some good intentions
Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 07-08-2005 at 13:53.
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Re: Why?
There is a big differnce killing in a war and targetting civilians.
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Actually it's easier for human beings to kill those they do not know, than it is to kill those they do. That's why we invented propaganda, racism, and a whole slew of other -ism's. It helps to dehumanize those you intend to fight. Of course, the good news is that if we do not know them, we tend to leave them alone simply because we do not care. Usually.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stewart Mills
But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason.
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Re: Why?
Modern warfare doesn't force you to see the enemy die. Modern warfare include to cripple the source of revenue, which includes civilians. Modern war is about Total war, where nobody escapes and everyone participates, regardless if you like it or not.
Very few people are able to kill another human and hold him in your arms and look in to his eyes while he is dying. If you get a bomb off and you only get some flashy news pictures on TV, it's much less real and it's easier to lie to your selves and justify it.
Unfortunately a human life has very little value these days.......
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Not since the second world war. From then on wars have always killed proportionally more civilians than soldiers. From the carpet bombing of Vietnam, to the 'targeted' bombing in Iraq.
Why do they do it? They must for some reason believe that this is the best way to achieve whatever ends they set themselves - a hodge-podge of different stories of fighting oppression from Kashmir, Chechnya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, etc. When you look at the map it's not hard to find potential inspiration for hot-headed young men who are promised an eternity of paradise.
The question is two-fold really. What makes the individuals do it, and what factors have created a situation where such an action is even on the agenda.
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