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    Default Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    This is kind of short, but we're going to try and use this in the next RTR. Here goes:

    Howto: use the brutii & scipii factions for something else

    ### Create a trait given to all "Roman" and "former Roman" faction family members that includes this:

    Effect PopularStanding 500

    #### Put this in descr_strat:

    ; ---------------------------------------------------------
    ; ######### >>> romans_senate <<< #########
    ; ---------------------------------------------------------

    faction romans_senate, comfortable henry
    denari 5000
    character Marcus Maxentius, named character, leader, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 65, , x 95, y 72
    army
    unit roman generals guard early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


    #### Put this at the end:

    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_senate
    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_brutii
    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_scipii
    faction_relationships romans_brutii, at_war_with romans_scipii
    faction_relationships romans_brutii, at_war_with romans_senate
    faction_relationships romans_scipii, at_war_with romans_senate

    #### give rome to the julii

    #### make a f-load of changes to text files that say "roman" instead of "romans_julii"

    The Senate is now gone and the factions are independent of each other. They can make peace and re-declare war. The only problem is that they'll have to start at war, and who knows what the hard-coded AI will do.

    If anyone can think of any problems with this, let me know.

    Enjoy!

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    Default Re: Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    I don't know why it didn't post that, but here's the rest:

    ; ---------------------------------------------------------

    faction romans_senate, comfortable henry
    denari 5000
    character Marcus Maxentius, named character, leader, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 65, , x 95, y 72
    army
    unit roman generals guard early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


    #### Put this at the end:

    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_senate
    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_brutii
    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_scipii
    faction_relationships romans_brutii, at_war_with romans_scipii
    faction_relationships romans_brutii, at_war_with romans_senate
    faction_relationships romans_scipii, at_war_with romans_senate

    #### give rome to the julii

    #### make a f-load of changes to text files that say "roman" instead of "romans_julii"

    The Senate is now gone and the factions are independent of each other. They can make peace and re-declare war. The only problem is that they'll have to start at war, and who knows what the hard-coded AI will do.

    If anyone can think of any problems with this, let me know.

    Enjoy!

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    Default Re: Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    If you put too many > together, it ignores the post after that point.

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    Default Re: Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    Okay, here are questions:
    What happens to the Senate tab and Senate offices?
    Do the factions still share map information?
    The game generally behaves as if it started after Civil War outbreak and capturing Rome by Julii, right?
    In that case, doesn't the game end too soon, if you defeat the other two factions quickly?
    I'm still not here

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    Default Re: Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    What happens to the Senate tab and Senate offices?

    The Senate is eliminated, so they're grayed out. There are no missions and no offices besides whatever the senate gives to the single guy it starts with before it's eliminated.

    Do the factions still share map information?

    No.

    The game generally behaves as if it started after Civil War outbreak and capturing Rome by Julii, right?

    Not really. Especially if the Roman factions aren't adjacent to each other.

    In that case, doesn't the game end too soon, if you defeat the other two factions quickly?

    Not until you have fifty provinces.

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    Default Re: Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    Quote Originally Posted by bouis

    faction romans_senate, comfortable henry
    denari 5000
    character Marcus Maxentius, named character, leader, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 65, , x 95, y 72
    army
    unit roman generals guard early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


    #### Put this at the end:

    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_senate
    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_brutii
    faction_relationships romans_julii, at_war_with romans_scipii
    faction_relationships romans_brutii, at_war_with romans_scipii
    faction_relationships romans_brutii, at_war_with romans_senate
    faction_relationships romans_scipii, at_war_with romans_senate
    Hi there


    The relationships

    Do you put them
    At the end of the faction section or where it says start of diplomacy section?

    Thanks in advance
    WE WILL RIDE INTO ROME!

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    Default Re: Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    Either will do lismore. Basically at the end of the file. Remeber the things with ; at the start of the line are only comments. You can put it before or after the bit where it says diplomacy section, but to keep organised it helps to put them under that header.

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    Default Re: Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    What happens if they are left allied? Will they still share map info? Also, will the the game not be 'finished' if Rome is given to a playabe faction? (I know RTR has managed this, I'd just like to know why it hasnt activated the game as 'finished')

    Also, I remember a script to remove the 50 faction win thing, anyone kind enough to post it, or a link to it?

    cheers, dark_shadow89

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    Default Re: Howto: convert Brutii & Scipii into diff factions

    Hey dark, its Honorius.

    What happens if they are left allied? Will they still share map info?
    -I am going to say yes they share info because they are hardcoded allies from the beginning, and only saying that they are not allies changes this fact. But I could not find where they are declared allies.

    Also, will the the game not be 'finished' if Rome is given to a playabe faction? (I know RTR has managed this, I'd just like to know why it hasnt activated the game as 'finished')
    -Are you saying that someone who has Rome in the beginning cannot win? I know they fixed the 50 province CTD, but maybe I misunderstood what you mean by this.

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