What is the problem of become protectorade?

**PorT_Lobo** · 07-05-2005, 14:46

I am playing as Armenia in 1.2. Egypit attacked me and after a while asked me to become protectorade..... i accepted in change of 10.000 dinars...... they payed and in the next turn i attacked them again with no penalization

!!!!

What is the effects to me to accept become protectorade? None? Just another way (diplomatic exploit) to take money of AI?

**IliaDN** · 07-05-2005, 16:09

There are lot's of threads here which are on this topic so use search function ( and spell check as well ) to find what you need ...

**Spartiate** · 07-05-2005, 16:23

Originally Posted by PorT_Lobo

I am playing as Armenia in 1.2. Egypit attacked me and after a while asked me to become protectorade..... i accepted in change of 10.000 dinars...... they payed and in the next turn i attacked them again with no penalization

!!!!

What is the effects to me to accept become protectorade? None? Just another way (diplomatic exploit) to take money of AI?

Because of the manner in which the AI can be exploited i never break a treaty with them and if i accept protectorate status from an AI faction i abide by the agreement until it ends of natural causes or i get attacked by that faction.In other words self-moderation is the key to making this aspect of the game enjoyable.Never attack allies until they attack you.

**Jimmytwohand** · 07-05-2005, 16:27

I also seem to recall that breaking the treaty will negatively affect your world reputation and image, making alliances/cease fires/treaties harder to achieve in the future. I have no hard proof of that though.

**Mahrabals apprentice** · 07-05-2005, 22:09

I read a treatise on diplomacy somewhere on this site which agrees with you, if you break your word people won't trust you. But if your powerful enough you don't have to keep your word

Like 1 of the quotes on the game says (kind of says atleast) deals with the powerful are worth nothing

**pezhetairoi** · 07-06-2005, 01:36

As Spain I agreed to become a protectorate of Gaul in return for gigantic sums of tribute, a big big lump sum up front, and map information. In return, I allied with them but removed their military access. That secured my fortified Spanish peninsula enough for me to take out the Romans before returning to crush the Gauls.

In short, protectorate harms you in no way. It just makes you stronger.

**PorT_Lobo** · 07-06-2005, 06:46

Well it seems become an AI protectorade is another diplomatic exploit......

Instead of causing problems to human player.... it beneficts him.... Because AI only propose that when has huge military advantage and is in war with human...... so the alternative is:

- Human refuses and must fight a bloody war against a powefull opponent, or;
- Human accept become under protection of AI, and can ask money for it (AI pays a lot), saving from war, and only have to give to the protector civ the remaining money non spent after each turn...... You just have to spent all your income to don't have nothing to pay....

Become a AI protectorade shoulded be a bad situation to human, not a good thing.... so this is a diplomatic exploit.... My sugestion to CA is that when Human become protectorade, must have half income immediatly to AI without can spent it (like it is now) and AI no offeer money (or offeer to few) to Human accept become protectorade......

**Viking** · 07-07-2005, 17:52

Originally Posted by pezhetairoi

In short, protectorate harms you in no way. It just makes you stronger.

I haven`t become a protectorate in 1.2, but when you become a protectorate you loose most of your treasury and have to pay tributes each turn. That`ll give you a strict economy.

I can`t see how it makes you stronger, but if you insist that it doesn`t harm you then I might try it one day

**Horatius** · 07-07-2005, 00:09

How do you guys play as these factions?

I mean I beat Armenia in 1.0, and also won the game as the Brutii (The two things needed to play as all playable races) and I can't play as Armenia.

I can't play as Scythia either.

Did patch 1.2 enable playing as these people or is there some secret to unlocking them I don't know about?

**PorT_Lobo** · 07-07-2005, 01:01

Hi Horatius,

You just have to replace a texte document. You dan download it here: http://www.twcenter.net/downloads/db/?mod=39

Good Luck playing with Numidia and Senate, that's the biggest challange in 1.2!!!!