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    Well the title pretty much says it all. Do you think the wortld would be a better place if we all lived under the government of the US? Nations would become states with all the same rights and privilges of our current states. If you dont like our form of government what one would you prefer in such a situtaion? Remember you can only choose one nation and form of government to rule the world.

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    Default Re: Would the world be a better place if the US ruled the world?

    This is probaly going to be moved...

    No. The all or nothing system that tends to run in our gov is I think a bad idea. Proportional representation is a good idea I think(a party gets 10 percent of the votes, they get 10 percent of the seats).


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    I think the world should divided into city states.

    Each city state has its own elected council and public forums where people can discuss things with other people and the council members. This will make the council member more accountable to the people and force them to talk to the people.

    Each city would send a representative, which is elected by the city council, to a global council.

    The heads of state would be an Emperor, preferable me, and two elected (by the global council) Consuls, one left winger, one right winger, so everything neither side can get total power. They will all have equal power.

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    no, plain and simple. The world would not adapt to American politics and the Americans wouldn't be liked all around the world for it.
    Isn't this a political thread? Perhaps it should be moved to the backroom.
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    Default Re : Would the world be a better place if the US ruled the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Do you think the world would be a better place if we all lived under the government of the US? Nations would become states with all the same rights and privilges of our current states.
    Well, considering the state that most of the world is in, of course.
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    Would the world be a better place if the US ruled the world?

    Put quite simply, no. People (as in people of a nation) want to be self-governing, not ruled by another group of people with completely different cultures.
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    No.clearly and absolutely no.Not under USA or any other national state.
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    Default Re: Would the world be a better place if the US ruled the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus
    Would the world be a better place if the US ruled the world?

    Put quite simply, no. People (as in people of a nation) want to be self-governing, not ruled by another group of people with completely different cultures.
    Agreed


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    Default Re: Would the world be a better place if the US ruled the world?

    Maybe a better way to word the question would be 'Would the world be better off under a government that is modeled exactly like the one that holds sway over the US?(House, senate, exec, state govs with a lot of power etc)' Well, on second though yes, since even our very imperfect democracy is better than a dictatorship right(this is assuming that most of the world lives under dictators, which may be wrong). A proportional representation system is better though.


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    No - I think the world would be a much better place if there were NO nation states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny


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    Default Re: Would the world be a better place if the US ruled the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Well the title pretty much says it all. Do you think the wortld would be a better place if we all lived under the government of the US? Nations would become states with all the same rights and privilges of our current states. If you dont like our form of government what one would you prefer in such a situtaion? Remember you can only choose one nation and form of government to rule the world.

    Darn it this belongs in the back room where Beruit when I need him?
    Maybe it's my national pride, but yes, I do think the world would be a better place. (Letting the flaming begin )



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    I have no doubt about it but its amusing seeeing all these people say otherwise. The world would be better off under the rule of any number of democratic nations. Pindar keeps hinting at this sort of thing with his democratic nation only United Nations. Again if all the free world made the spread of democracy their main concern much of the worlds problems would be solved.
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    Default Re: Would the world be a better place if the US ruled the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    I have no doubt about it but its amusing seeeing all these people say otherwise. The world would be better off under the rule of any number of democratic nations. Pindar keeps hinting at this sort of thing with his democratic nation only United Nations. Again if all the free world made the spread of democracy their main concern much of the worlds problems would be solved.
    Except many nations would reject democracy, such as many middle eastern nations.

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    Except many nations would reject democracy, such as many middle eastern nations.
    You really thik so? I doubt it. Sure their governments might not like it but I think the people would think differently. You dont think everyone wants to be free? Are the people of the middle east different than those in the rest of the world? How do you know when they have never been given a choice?
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    yes i do. What do you think the average middle easterner's reaction to seperation of church and state would be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    You really thik so? I doubt it. Sure their governments might not like it but I think the people would think differently. You dont think everyone wants to be free? Are the people of the middle east different than those in the rest of the world? How do you know when they have never been given a choice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Well the title pretty much says it all. Do you think the wortld would be a better place if we all lived under the government of the US? Nations would become states with all the same rights and privilges of our current states. If you dont like our form of government what one would you prefer in such a situtaion? Remember you can only choose one nation and form of government to rule the world.

    Darn it this belongs in the back room where Beruit when I need him?
    I am confused. Your proposal is that all nations become states as part of the United States with equal rights? That would be great. I would accept that immediately (Even though some details should be adjusted first) But that would not mean that the US as we know it today would rules. Right?
    You can also take any other state that has democracy - maybe not GB, I do not like kings and queens.

    If all nations join the US the problem with illegal immigrants would be solved

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    I am confused
    How so?

    Your proposal is that all nations become states as part of the United States with equal rights? That would be great. I would accept that immediately (Even though some details should be adjusted first) But that would not mean that the US as we know it today would rules. Right?
    Yes Washington would be the capital but as you said every nation or state as it were would get 2 senators and the same proportion as our current states in the house. Since the constitution only says that the president for instance must be born in the US anyone in the world could be preisdent. It certainly would be a huge improvement over what we have now.

    If all nations join the US the problem with illegal immigrants would be solved
    Of course as there would be no such thing as immigrants just out of staters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    How so?
    The title 'US ruled the world' cunfused me. Because equal rights mean world population rules. By the way, it would not make much sense to call this global state 'United States of America', right. Maybe it should simply be named 'United Nations'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Yes Washington would be the capital but as you said every nation or state as it were would get 2 senators and the same proportion as our current states in the house. Since the constitution only says that the president for instance must be born in the US anyone in the world could be preisdent. It certainly would be a huge improvement over what we have now.
    Go ahead! I guess the next president could be Chinese!

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