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    You could just drop the limitations on Latin immigrants, they never worked anyway
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    Having seen the mess of Switzerland, I'd suggest you let people born in American become citizens. Last thing you want is a new underclass of citizenless people who have always lived in America etc.

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    Having seen the mess of Switzerland, I'd suggest you let people born in American become citizens. Last thing you want is a new underclass of citizenless people who have always lived in America etc.
    Once more I hae no problem with letting people who are here legally and have a child claim citizenship here. But if they snuck in they and their brood should be deported. I dont know of any other country that allows this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Once more I hae no problem with letting people who are here legally and have a child claim citizenship here. But if they snuck in they and their brood should be deported. I dont know of any other country that allows this.
    Well I think the issue in Switzerland is that the immigrants (predominately Albanian I think) were invited in, not given citizenship, then had kids, who weren't citizens either, and are now completely stuck because all they speak is Swiss German and all they have is an Albanian passport (which is pretty worthless anyway).

    I don't see the problem with kids of illegal immigrants getting citizenship. What connection do they have to their parents' country? If they were born in America, they should be American. Born in Britain, British. It's not going to help integration if you develop an underclass of people who have lived in America their whole lives, speak English only, and then can't go back to their parents' country anyway. What do you do with them? Dump them in no-mans land between borders?

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    What connection do they have to their parents' country?
    Their parents of course who should still be living in that country.

    If they were born in America, they should be American. Born in Britain, British
    Then why dont the British or anyone but us have such a law?

    It's not going to help integration if you develop an underclass of people who have lived in America their whole lives, speak English only, and then can't go back to their parents' country anyway. What do you do with them? Dump them in no-mans land between borders?
    No I want them and their parents back in the country they came from and belong to before the kids grow up here. Someone asked why should the children be punished for the sins of their parents. When I ask why should they be rewarded for the sins of their parents theres no answer from you. This is a no brainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Then why dont the British or anyone but us have such a law?
    Irrelevant. We are talking about US now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    No I want them and their parents back in the country they came from and belong to before the kids grow up here. Someone asked why should the children be punished for the sins of their parents. When I ask why should they be rewarded for the sins of their parents theres no answer from you. This is a no brainer.
    According to the law a child can not be punished for anything the parents have done. This is not an exception. The child is innocent to any immigration violation committed by the parents. You want to revoke the right from an unborn child, which you also claim is a human with rights.

    And yes, it's a no brainer. The child has not violated ANY laws and have the RIGHT to become an American citizen when born on American soil.

    I for one think that this is a law that US should be proud over. Shame on you picking on innocent unborn children like this........



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    I tend to second bmolsson. The kid is born in a country, was raised in a country - and suddenly has to emigrate 'cause its parents have done something wrong? My country is where I did grow up. Not where my parents did.

    And, Gawain : I just told you France had such a soil law - just that the kid has to be raised up in France too, not only be born here. If effectively they cross the border, give birth, & come back, the kid is not from here - just accidentally born over there. If they cross the border, give birth, & the child does grow up here, hell, the child's country is here!!!
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    Anchor babies? I prefer the term "dirt birth babies". The illegals run across the desert and spit their babies out onto the dirt in the wilderness of american soil. As soon as they cross, they just spit that trash out in the sand. Then life becomes good for them. I think some actually get pregnant just to spew their dirt birth babies in america and get the benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    they just spit that trash out in the sand.
    Slightly offensive - don't you think?

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    Slightly offensive - don't you think?
    Yes very. Remember its only trash until the unbelical cord is cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
    Slightly offensive - don't you think?
    I know. Isn't it wonderful?

    In all seriousness, "trash" in militaryspeak is just personally owned property. As in "pick up all your trash and gear" (pick up all of your personal property and military property).

    It gets used for many different things in my beloved Corps. It can also mean language, as in: "secure that trash" (stop cursing) or it could be an event of some kind: "that trash was great!" (that movie, book, play, concert, opera, fireworks display, auto accident, music, storm, etc. was awesome!) It is an interchangeable word used in the place of the word sh*t. That way, Marines can cuss without actually cussing. Thus is only slightly offensive, unlike "ka-ka". So you were acurately descriptive in your moderating.

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    bmolsson Did you even read the bottom part of my last post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceasar010
    bmolsson Did you even read the bottom part of my last post
    Yes, and you clearly don't like latinos..... Don't see any reason to comment on that though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    Yes, and you clearly don't like latinos..... Don't see any reason to comment on that though...

    I don't care if you are white, black, oriental, latino, what ever. If you are going to move here do it the right way get green card.


    And we aren't punishing the children because it would be just like they were born in their own country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    I dont know of any other country that allows this.
    Twice already, El Slapper pointed at France as another country with the same law.

    The main difference is the kid can ask for citizenship after 18. It's not compulsory, he got to ask for it.

    Otherwise, anyone born in France can be French.

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    PS: I find the use of the word "trash" offensive. This is an international board, not a Marine camp, so please your kind of specific linguo there...
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