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    I don't think that US citizens lose their rights when they go to jail, more that certain rights are suspended in order to protect the rights of others (e.g. liberty suspended to protect others' right to safety). Going to jail does not automatically remove the person's rights.
    It removes most of the important ones like liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Also the right to drive to vote and to even eat when or what you would like. The only rights you reall have left are those that apply to the courts and your life.

    If this is the case then I would be very concerned about the state of US jails.
    I seriously doubt that prisoners in your countries jails are treated as well as those at Gitmo either.
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    People don't need guns to be protected from their government. They just need lots of lawyers. And America has lots of them. They might not actually save freedoms, but they delay it long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    It removes most of the important ones like liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Also the right to drive to vote and to even eat when or what you would like. The only rights you reall have left are those that apply to the courts and your life.
    As I said, these rights are more suspended until the person's release, in order to protect the rights of others/due to practicality (it's quite hard to choose what you want to eat in jail). And is there actually a right to drive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    I seriously doubt that prisoners in your countries jails are treated as well as those at Gitmo either.
    I very much doubt that. Apart from the fact that they don't have to wear orange suits, face interrogation and the fact that they are allowed to go outside for a reasonable length of time, people in British jails actually know why they are in them. They have the right to trial before being sent to jail, and they have the right to appeal against a court's decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDC
    People don't need guns to be protected from their government. They just need lots of lawyers. And America has lots of them. They might not actually save freedoms, but they delay it long enough.
    Actually the US Congress is made up of around 45 percent lawyers.
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    Nm.
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    I think he meant it was surprising that it wasn't 95%.
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    Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    Actually the US Congress is made up of around 45 percent lawyers.
    Wow is that all. I thought it was like 85 %

    Dont really matter as after they get there their all the same. A fookin bunch of crooks.
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    What is your perception of lawyers? I bet you think they are all rich and after your money, no?

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    I bet you think they are all rich and after your money, no?
    No as I dont nave any

    But I do think they are all rich and after someone elses money, no?
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    As I said, these rights are more suspended until the person's release, in order to protect the rights of others/due to practicality (it's quite hard to choose what you want to eat in jail). And is there actually a right to drive?
    Its the same for those in Gitmo who never had some of these rights in their own countries.

    I very much doubt that. Apart from the fact that they don't have to wear orange suits,
    They dont wear uniforms in jails over there? Our county jail inmates wear them and guess what? There international bright orange ones.

    face interrogation
    Believe me if they think you have information concerning a crime you will be interogated there. Also you may face it if your not sentenced yet. Yes we have millions of people in jail who have not yet been convicted of any crime and Im sure you do also.

    they are allowed to go outside for a reasonable length of time,
    So are these guys. Have you seen their soccer field. Hey were talking Camp Gitmo here I will garuntee you the food is better than your inmates get. I hear its even better than the guards get.

    people in British jails actually know why they are in them
    Yes these poor blokes were minding there own bussines just visiting afghanistan when our evil army swooped and and sent them to Gitmo. They damn well know why their there even if you dont.

    They have the right to trial before being sent to jail, and they have the right to appeal against a court's decision.
    THEIR not enemy combatants. Just for your information I saw a show on how they interogate prisoners. Do you know who taught them most of their tricks. Yeah the British . It seems the IRA has made you very good at this sort of thing.
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