Jail Break

**|OCS|Virus** · 07-15-2005, 22:24

Get a load of this, in Oregon they are considering letting out around 125 convicted criminals because there staff is overworked and has to spread 60 shifts over around 40 people. The sheriff appeared on TV saying that "sometimes people were just told "I'm sorry you can't leave yet, we need you to stay here"" and were not even paid for there time. Now I can understand this, if it wern't for two things: 1. Oregon has over 5% unemployment, and that means there are a lot of people on the streets that NEED jobs like this where not a lot of training is needed, and pays good. 2. The decision for release was based on the fact that they are underfunded, now while this is going on, they decide to LOWER the budget for the jails, leaving less money for jail cells to be opened, and then our local governor {Ted kolongousky I believe it is spelled} decides that this is the PERFECT time to take a trip to Hawii on the taxpayers money in order to meet with other OREGON state officials.

Now what kind of a message does that send to the people of Oregon? that is totaly bull in my mind. Don't think posting it will do any good, just letting everyone know how screwed up things can get in my neck of the woods. Tell me what you think about the situation in Oregon.

EDIT:

to quote a little more reading material, here is a koin6 news report.

http://www.koin.com/news.asp?RECORD_...5Bnews%5D=2541

**Blodrast** · 07-15-2005, 23:22

sad, what can I say. But honestly, isn't it like that everywhere ? Power corrupts, etc, etc. Government, bureaucracy, inefficiency, corruption... same ol', same ol'...
The best we can get is somewhat-intelligent somewhat-caring with-a-bit-of-conscience-and-morality people that leave their mark in a good way as well...

**King of Atlantis** · 07-15-2005, 23:27

sad, sad, sad,

**Red Harvest** · 07-15-2005, 23:38

Texas did something similar a decade or so ago. They were just smarter about it. They did it by eliminating incarceration for many "non-violent" offenses.

This is one reason I advocate the approach of X number of beds per Y population...accompanied with an automatic execution of those with the most total prison time whenever the cap is reached and more beds are needed. It's sort of a a merit based system.

No, I'm not kidding.

**|OCS|Virus** · 07-15-2005, 23:51

We need to be smarter about things, just have a list of mandatory punishments for certain offences. Then staff the bloody prisons, and lets not have our governor go out of state to Hawii and waste I believe the total was 10,000 dollars, even though it isn't a whole lot of money, it sais something about a guy when he has the nerve to do that. Gotta find out when elections are, hopefully this guy wont run again, although I'm sure he will. There must be a real answere out there somewere to this insanity.

**BDC** · 07-16-2005, 12:34

Just tag prisoners and say "if you earn over $xxxxx a year then you are free to go with a staggeringly large tax burdin, if not it's prison!"

**scooter_the_shooter** · 07-17-2005, 15:34

Well lets get this back on prisons not bullets

Prisons need to be harsher no luxuries...... at all no tv, no air condition, no phone calls after the first one, no visiting, any one who causes trouble gets whacked with a cattle prod a few times.etc etc

Now I don't want this for the guys that cant pay their parking tickets. keep it as is for them and other very minor offences.

I want the rapist, drug dealers, car jackers, killers etc to have the hell like prison.

And for the Oregon prison just cut down on luxuries and use the money to build on. or just cut the luxuries and throw more in a cell

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 07-17-2005, 15:55

Get 2 rusty hooks. Insert hooks through felons nipples. Hang felons for sentence by nipples. If nipples rip off, sew them back on and repeat.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 07-17-2005, 17:36

Kaiser, that is disgusting.

@JAG

Crazed Rabbit

**scooter_the_shooter** · 07-17-2005, 17:55

they should give one ounce of water a day a piece of bread and no medical treatment because of that

**BDC** · 07-17-2005, 18:37

Perhaps prison should be unpleasant but with the opportunity to learn a trade or some other way of making money.

Then it's a) a deterrent and b) people can earn money, having no reason to reoffend.

As opposed to being fairly pleasant and also no teaching you anything, which just doesn't help at all.

Also, once out, you have done your punishment, and should be treated the same as anyone else (except paedophiles, repeat offenders etc).